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新美亚电子 (SANM.US) 2026年第二季度业绩电话会
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Sanmina reported strong Q2 FY26 earnings, with $4.0B revenue, a 102% YOY increase, and a 6.4% non-GAAP operating margin. The company highlighted its diversified customer base, global manufacturing capabilities, and strategic investments in AI, cloud, and communication networks. Integration of Zt Systems significantly boosted revenue, and the company aims for $16B+ in FY27, driven by AI demand. Supply chain challenges were acknowledged, with assurance of their impact being factored into revenue guidance. The call ended with optimism on continued growth, addressing analyst queries on Zt Systems, cash flow, and future revenue targets.
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Sanmina's Q2 FY2026 Earnings Call: Non-GAAP Financial Results and Leadership Recognition
Sanmina's Q2 FY2026 earnings call provides non-GAAP financial results, excluding certain costs, and highlights leadership team's dedication and service to customers. The call includes a reminder of forward-looking statements' risks and the availability of webcast and recording on the company's website.
Strong Q2 Performance Highlights Revenue, Margin, and Cash Flow Success
Executives express satisfaction with Q2 results, emphasizing robust revenue, non-GAAP operating margin, and cash flow. CFO to review details, followed by updates on core operations and AI group achievements. Q&A session to follow.
Strong Q2 Earnings: Revenue Growth and Profit Expansion in Systems and Sanmina Business
The company reported a successful second quarter, exceeding revenue and profit forecasts. This was attributed to strong customer demand and execution in the Zt systems business, leading to accelerated shipments. The Corus Sanmina business also saw growth across major end markets. Non-GAAP operating margin and diluted earnings per share surpassed expectations, demonstrating effective cost management and revenue mix, positioning the company well for fiscal year objectives.
Strong Non-GAAP Financial Performance and Segment Results Overview
Announced third consecutive quarter of Non-GAAP operating margin at 6%+, with diluted earnings per share up 125% YoY. IMS segment revenue soared 123.5% YoY, driven by favorable mix and Z Systems' impact. EPS segment saw revenue growth but faced margin pressure from investments and component shortages, expecting resolution in H2.
Strong Balance Sheet & Cash Flow Management Highlighted
The dialogue emphasizes the company's robust balance sheet, ample liquidity, and effective working capital management, resulting in strong cash flow from operations and free cash flow. It also mentions strategic investments in technologies and capabilities to support long-term financial objectives and shareholder returns, while maintaining a healthy balance sheet.
Capital Allocation Strategy: Prioritizing Growth, Acquisitions, Balance Sheet Management, and Share Repurchases
Discusses a clear capital allocation strategy focusing on business investments, strategic acquisitions, balance sheet management, and shareholder returns through share repurchases, recently authorizing an additional $600 million for repurchases.
Zt Systems Integration Update: Streamlining Processes, Securing Customer Business, and Driving Growth
Following the acquisition, the integration of Zt Systems and Sanmina is progressing through three phases. The first phase, focused on immediate post-transaction integration, is largely complete. The second phase is underway, securing customer business and ensuring continuity, evidenced by winning new accelerated compute business. The third phase, already in progress, aims to drive growth and expansion through vertical integration and expanding engineering capabilities to support all platforms.
Outlook for Third Quarter: Revenue Growth and Financial Projections
The dialogue outlines the company's third-quarter outlook, projecting revenue between $3.2 and $3.5 billion, with core Sanmina revenue expected at $2.2 to $2.3 billion and Zt Systems at $1.0 to $1.2 billion. It highlights a 64% year-over-year growth midpoint of $3.35 billion, non-GAAP operating margin of 6.4%, and diluted earnings per share ranging from $2.55 to $2.85, reflecting a 70% increase from the previous year. Strategic investments in capital expenditures are also noted.
Outlook for Fiscal Year 2026: Revenue, Margins, and Earnings Projections
The presentation outlines expectations for fiscal year 2026, including revenue projections of $13.7 to $14.3 billion, non-GAAP operating margins of 6.3% to 6.6%, and diluted earnings per share between $10.75 to $11.35. Confidence is expressed in achieving $16 billion in revenue by 2027, with positive integration progress noted for the Zt systems business.
Strong Q2 Revenue Growth in AI Infrastructure and Communication for Force Cloud
Force Cloud's second quarter revenue from AI infrastructure and communication soared by 280%, with core contributions increasing 22% year-over-year. Industrial, energy, medical, defense, aerospace, automotive, and transportation sectors saw a 31% rise, totaling $1.24 billion, despite a slight dip in industrial revenue. Overall, the company's revenue surpassed expectations, with a 7.3% year-over-year increase in semiconductor revenue, supported by strong Q2 bookings and a book-to-bill ratio better than 1.
Strong Growth in Communication Networks Driven by AI and Telecommunications
The dialogue highlights robust growth in high-performance communication networks, emphasizing AI's role in driving expansion across various sectors. Key points include strong bookings, new program wins, and a promising pipeline for future projects, positioning the company for sustained success in the evolving market.
Expanding Industrial and Energy Business for Accelerated Growth in AI Data Centers
The industrial and energy segment is thriving, driven by power generation, distribution, and semiconductor capital equipment. Investment in engineering, design, and vertical integration for AI data centers is expected to fuel growth, especially in power storage, management, and safety equipment.
Strategic Growth Across Medical, Defense, Aerospace, and Automotive Sectors
The dialogue highlights strategic positioning and growth prospects in medical disposables, laboratory equipment, defense and aerospace systems, and automotive transportation. Key takeaways include stable end markets, accelerating growth, expanding customer bases, and transitioning programs to full-scale production, emphasizing regulatory expertise and strong customer demand.
Semina's End-to-End Solutions: Engineering Excellence in Key Markets
Semina offers industry-leading capabilities, from engineering design to full system solutions, for data center AI and infrastructure markets. Early involvement in product development and provision of high-tech circuit boards highlight their commitment to helping customers bring products to market successfully.
Semin's Advanced Manufacturing Capabilities and Global Supply Chain Integration
The dialogue highlights Semin's extensive manufacturing capabilities, including board testing, mechanical rack assembly, liquid cooling systems, and custom memory solutions. It emphasizes the company's global footprint, strategic customer alignment, and agile IT systems for managing supply chains. Investments in custom optical modules and a strong compute and storage system support ODM and joint development, reinforcing Semin's position as a leader in supporting market leaders with advanced solutions.
Strong Q2 Revenue Growth and Strategic Positioning for Future Expansion
The team achieved robust second-quarter revenue growth, reaching $14 billion with a 73% year-over-year increase. The company is diversifying across end markets, strengthening its U.S. presence, and expanding its global manufacturing footprint. A confident outlook is expressed for future growth, with a focus on executing strategies to build a stronger foundation for upcoming fiscal years.
Outperformance of Zt Due to Demand Pull-In and Future Prospects
Discussed factors behind Zt's outperformance, including demand pull-in and no shipment of Nvidia GPU products. Emphasized focus on future platforms and new opportunities, guiding confidence in revenue projections.
Sustainability of Zt's Margin Profile and Demand for Communication Segments
Discussed the sustainability of Zt's margin profile amidst business acceleration, emphasizing the dependency on business mix and future customer agreements. The dialogue also covered the robust demand in the communication segment, particularly in optical transceivers, switches, and 5G, with a focus on preparing for future market demands.
Innovative Advancements in Communication Products and Traditional Telecom
A discussion on the excitement surrounding advanced communication products, including IP routing, optical systems, and high-capacity plugins, as well as the resurgence of traditional telecom and a minor focus on EDG wireless, highlighting a strong business segment performance.
Diversification in Communication Networks and Cloud AI Infrastructure
Discussed the expansion from high-performance communication networks to cloud AI infrastructure, emphasizing a broadened and diversified technological portfolio.
Semiconductor Company's Strategic Wins and Growth Prospects in Hyperscale AI Infrastructure
A semiconductor firm discusses its strategic advancements in securing business with hyperscale clients for AI infrastructure, highlighting its goal to win all major hyperscalers and expressing confidence in future market opportunities and revenue potential. The company outlines its progress in developing and shipping pre-production systems, with plans to scale operations to meet growing demand.
Revenue Projections and Customer Wins for Upcoming Production Shifts
The dialogue discusses the company's revenue recognition timeline post-production, emphasizing the lead time for product build and global shipping. It highlights the company's strategy to increase capacity through customer wins and outlines a revenue growth target of $16 billion plus by fiscal year 27, with the majority of business anticipated to be on consignment. The conversation underscores the importance of customer schedules in driving future growth potential.
Investment Strategy Discussion with a Financial Advisor
An investor discusses various financial strategies and market trends with an advisor, seeking advice on optimizing portfolio performance and managing risks in the current economic climate.
Analysis of Cash Flow, CapEx, and Working Capital in a Combined Business
The dialogue discusses the company's impressive cash flow from operations, attributed to strong execution, reduced inventory, and effective accounts receivable management. It highlights the balance between CapEx and working capital, indicating a positive outlook for future cash generation.
Strategies for Maximizing Zt Systems Capacity and Diversifying Revenue Streams
The dialogue discusses strategies for increasing production efficiency at Zt Systems, rebuilding inventory levels for upcoming demand, and expanding business through cloud and OEM customers. It highlights successful execution on customer demand, investment in capacity, and the potential for growth in both cloud computing and OEM sectors.
Revenue Growth Strategy and Customer Base Expansion for Zt Systems
Discusses achieving $16 billion revenue target through Zt Systems' growth, maintaining core customers, expanding into CSPs and OEMs, and enhancing vertical integration to boost Semina core, accelerating market entry and increasing customer importance.
Investment in R&D for Business Growth and Customer Partnership in AI and ODM Services
The dialogue emphasizes the necessity of continued investment in R&D to support business growth, particularly as the company transitions from EMS to value-added ODM services. It highlights the importance of building strong, transparent relationships with customers and investing in capabilities to meet future demands, ensuring the company remains an industry leader in AI and ODM services.
Inquiry on Supply Chain Disruptions and Input Costs Amidst Q&A Session
A participant inquired about potential supply chain disruptions, input costs, and related difficulties during a Q&A session, expressing curiosity despite most questions being addressed.
Material Shortages Impacting Memory and Custom ASICs Supply, Potential Risks to Revenue
The dialogue discusses ongoing material shortages, particularly affecting memory and custom ASICs, with concerns extending into the next year. Despite these challenges, there's an emphasis on monitoring revenue risks without direct attribution to specific individuals.
Managing Supply Chain Challenges and Maximizing Shipments in Core Business
The dialogue highlights the daily challenge of managing parts procurement to ensure smooth manufacturing and shipment processes. It emphasizes the importance of IT systems, supplier relationships, and customer planning in mitigating these challenges. Despite potential for increased shipments due to component availability, current forecasts and customer expectations have been integrated into business guidance. The core business, focusing on communication networks and cloud infrastructure, continues to grow, albeit constrained by equipment and component supply. The discussion concludes with an open invitation for further questions, reinforcing the company's commitment to customer engagement and transparency.
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Q:What were the financial results for the second quarter of fiscal 2026?
A:The financial results for the second quarter of fiscal 2026 included revenue of $4.0 billion, a non GAAP operating margin of 6.4%, and a non GAAP diluted EPS of $3.16. Cash flow from operations was $399 million.
Q:How did the company's performance compare to the outlook for the second quarter?
A:The company's performance exceeded the outlook for the second quarter with revenue coming in well above the outlook range, a non GAAP operating margin that met expectations, and non GAAP diluted EPS that exceeded the outlook.
Q:What contributed to the revenue growth in the second quarter?
A:Revenue growth in the second quarter was driven by strong execution and customer demand for the Zt systems business, resulting in some accelerated compute shipments from the second half shifting into the second quarter.
Q:How did non GAAP gross profit and operating expenses perform?
A:Non GAAP gross profit was $360 million or 9.0% of revenue, and non GAAP operating expenses were $103 million or 2.6% of revenue. This resulted in a non GAAP operating profit of $258 million and a non GAAP diluted earnings per share of $3.16.
Q:What were the non GAAP operating margin and diluted earnings per share for the quarter?
A:The non GAAP operating margin for the quarter was 6.4% and the non GAAP diluted earnings per share was $3.16.
Q:What was the segment performance for the quarter?
A:Segment performance showed that IMS revenue was $3.58 billion, up 123.5% versus the same period a year ago. The core Sanmina IMS revenue was $1.70 billion and grew 6.0% year over year. Zt revenue was $1.88 billion for the quarter. The IMF non GAAP gross margin was 8.5% of revenue, driven primarily by favorable mix and the addition of the Z systems business.
Q:What challenges impacted the revenue and profitability in the quarter?
A:Component shortages impacted the timing of revenue and profitability for one of our product businesses, which the company believes will be resolved in the second half of the fiscal year.
Q:What is the company's long term target for net leverage ratio?
A:The company's long term target net leverage ratio is 1.0 times to 2.0 times.
Q:What was the quarterly free cash flow?
A:The quarterly free cash flow was $342 million.
Q:What is the company's capital allocation strategy?
A:The company's capital allocation strategy prioritizes investing in the business for long term growth, evaluating strategic acquisitions and partnerships, managing the balance sheet, and returning capital to shareholders through share repurchases, subject to maintaining a strong balance sheet and liquidity position.
Q:What is the purpose of the additional $600 million share repurchase authorization?
A:The purpose of the additional $600 million share repurchase authorization is to continue to repurchase shares opportunistically and in line with the company's capital allocation strategy.
Q:What is the focus of the Zt Systems business now and in the future?
A:The focus of the Zt Systems business is full systems integration at scale. In the future, by combining with Sanmina's existing capabilities, Zt Systems will also have the ability to build sub-assemblies and leverage components, products, and services technologies.
Q:What is the company's outlook for the third quarter in terms of revenue?
A:The company expects revenue between $3.2 and $3.5 billion, with core Sanmina revenue in the range of $2.2 to $2.3 billion, and Zt Systems revenue in the range of $1.0 to $1.2 billion.
Q:What is the company's outlook for non GAAP operating margin and diluted earnings per share for the third quarter?
A:The company expects a non GAAP operating margin of 6.4% to 6.9%, other income and expense as a net expense of approximately $30 million, a non GAAP effective tax rate between 21% to 23%, and non GAAP diluted earnings per share in the range of $2.55 to $2.85 based on approximately 55 million fully diluted shares outstanding.
Q:What is the company's outlook for full fiscal year 2026 in terms of revenue, operating margin, and diluted earnings per share?
A:The company expects revenue to be in the range of $13.7 to $14.3 billion, a non GAAP operating margin between 6.3% to 6.6%, and non GAAP diluted earnings per share in the range of $10.75 to $11.35 based on approximately 59 million diluted shares outstanding.
Q:How is the Zt system business performing and what does it indicate for the company's future?
A:The Zt system business is performing very strongly, with a revenue of $1.88 billion, driven by demand across communication networks, cloud AI infrastructure, and other sectors. This performance indicates a solid foundation for future success and contributes to the company's confidence in achieving revenue of $16 billion plus by 2027.
Q:What are the key achievements of the second quarter and the first half of the fiscal year?
A:The key achievements of the second quarter and the first half of the fiscal year include strong results, with the company on a great trajectory for both the Corus and Venna business and the Zt systems business. The Zt systems business is experiencing a year of transition successfully with the 300 phase plan working well, evidenced by proof points shared earlier. The core Sanmina and V.T. systems teams have done a great job with the integration and execution of objectives, positioning the company for future success.
Q:What was the growth in revenue across different end markets in the second quarter?
A:In the second quarter, the revenue growth across different end markets was as follows: AI infrastructure saw almost a 280% growth to $2.77 billion, core contributed to that with $891 million (up 22% year over year), and Zt system business generated $1.88 billion. The industrial, energy, medical, defense, and aerospace, automotive, and transportation group saw flat revenue at $1.24 billion, which was expected due to a slight downturn in industrial demand. Overall, the company's revenue exceeded $5 billion for the first time, growing 7.3% year over year.
Q:What is the status of bookings and the positive trends in the end markets?
A:Bookings for the second quarter were strong with a book-to-bill ratio better than expected. The end markets are showing a very positive trend, with communication networks well diversified in high-performance areas such as IP switching and routing, optical systems, broadband access, and wireless infrastructure. Cloud and AI infrastructure are also performing well, driven by accelerated compute, general-purpose compute, and storage. Traditional telecommunications business bookings continue to be strong, indicating a robust growth outlook.
Q:Can you describe the prospects in the industrial and energy segment?
A:The industrial and energy segment is very promising, driven by power generation and distribution, with multiple customers expected to perform well. The semiconductor capital equipment market is moving in the right direction with increasing demand. The company is investing in engineering and design for business expansion and sees nice growth potential, especially in power storage and management, and safety and surveillance equipment. Growth is expected to accelerate in the second half, with the company positioning itself for continued expansion in AI data centers.
Q:What highlights can you provide regarding the medical segment?
A:The medical segment is characterized by a stable end market, with growth expected to accelerate in the second half. The company is leveraging its regulatory knowledge and experience to expand its customer base and drive growth around disposables, variable consumer business, laboratory, diagnostic research equipment, and medical office equipment.
Q:What comments can you make about the defense and aerospace segment?
A:The defense and aerospace segment is well-positioned, with the company having a long history in this business. They cover everything from design to full system integration and expect continued growth in traditional U.S. defense and aerospace business. The company is expanding its customer base in the satellite market and sees strong demand. The outlook for the second half of 2026 is very positive, with growth anticipated in the future.
Q:What is the status of the automotive and transportation segment?
A:The automotive and transportation segment is stable, with a great customer base and key programs being won from new and existing customers. Programs are transitioning from NPI (New Product Introduction) into full-scale production. The company has solid customers around automotive, e-assist, and self-driving car businesses and transportation.
Q:How are the Semina capabilities and the diversity of the company's customer base?
A:Semina has a diverse set of capabilities, providing end-to-end solutions for all key markets from engineering design to full system integration. The company typically gets involved early in product development, helping customers bring products to market. They offer high technology circuit boards, advanced board testing, mechanical racks, and enclosure design, and are investing in liquid cooling solutions. The company also provides custom memory for key customers and custom optical modules. This comprehensive range of services contributes to the company's ability to maintain a diverse customer base consisting of market leaders.
Q:Can you describe the strategic positioning of the Semina manufacturing footprint?
A:The Semina manufacturing footprint is strategically positioned to support customers globally, aligned with their requirements. The company has a strong U.S. presence and leverages an established global infrastructure with adequate capacity for growth. Their global and regional supply chain is connected by an IT system managed by Semina Smart PIMS, which provides agility and industry-leading capabilities, particularly in the context of material shortages.
Q:What are the company's expectations for revenue in fiscal year quest?
A:The company is well positioned to deliver over Ed billion in fiscal year quest based on the forecast available to them. They feel good about the opportunities in front of them and are focused on building a stronger business for the future.
Q:What details were provided about the outperformance in the latest quarter?
A:The outperformance in the latest quarter was due to a customer pulling in some products that were originally scheduled for a third or fourth-quarter delivery. These products were successfully delivered due to the company's efficient operations, and all the products shipped were based on AMD technology, not Nvidia GPUs.
Q:How is the company's current strategy contributing to its success?
A:The company's current strategy of focusing on new product development and winning business with multiple hyperscalers is contributing to its success. The strategy involves producing new products that are in high demand and align with the company's vision for future growth.
Q:Is the Zt margin profile sustainable in the next few quarters?
A:The Zt margin profile is in line with the overall company's margin profile, which is about 4%. While the exact margins for the next few quarters may vary depending on the mix of business, the long-term expectation is for the margin profile to be roughly in line with core Sanmina's margins. This will be influenced by customer agreements and consignment arrangements, but it's too early to make specific predictions for the upcoming fiscal year.
Q:Can more details about the communication segment be provided, specifically regarding optical transceivers and switches?
A:The communication segment continues to be a strength for Sanmina, with a focus on advanced products like those used in IP routing, optical systems, and 400/800nm optical transceivers. The company is also shipping 1.6 TB switches and remains well-diversified within the segment, catering to various needs including traditional telecom and wireless solutions. The segment as a whole is performing well, with a mix of products contributing to its success.
Q:What is the projected timeline for winning deals with large hyperscalers?
A:The projected timeline for winning deals with large hyperscalers is over the next few months, which has proven to be more successful than initially expected.
Q:What is the status of the new product development and shipping process?
A:The new product development and shipping process is on track, with a delay in potentially receiving huge amounts of revenue in September, but everything remains on schedule.
Q:How is revenue recognized for the Zt business?
A:Revenue recognition for the Zt business is based on when the customers receive the products.
Q:What are the revenue expectations for the fiscal year and beyond?
A:The revenue opportunity in the fiscal year is not significantly large and is more of an FY script play towards the end of the calendar year. The company has started to shift pre-production volumes and is learning more about building products in preparation for customer-specific schedules. The company has won several customers and aims to fill up all its capacity, with potential for further investment if more opportunities arise.
Q:What is the anticipated growth trajectory for the Zt business in fiscal year 2027?
A:The anticipated growth trajectory for the Zt business in fiscal year 2027 is a revenue guide of over 16 billion, implying growth at high single digits. The company had initially expected to double its Cloud AI infrastructure revenue within two years and then accelerated it to one year after the acquisition, resulting in the 16 billion number for fiscal year 2027. However, they now anticipate it to be $16 billion plus due to strong demand, with the majority of the business expected to be consignment.
Q:What details can be provided about cash flows and CapEx for the combined business?
A:The combined business generated almost $300 million of free cash flow in the quarter, with an understanding that the dynamics of the Zt systems business are becoming clearer and linearity of the business was a factor in the substantial cash flow from operations. The company will build inventory levels in Q3 and Q4 to prepare for the new accelerated compute business. While not guiding specifically for cash, it is expected to continue generating cash. The details suggest that the company grew revenues significantly while maintaining strong cash flows.
Q:What is the current status of inventory levels and expectations for future inventory and revenue?
A:Inventory levels have come down, as have AR levels due to effective collection. The company is excited about the cash generated in the quarter and is planning to rebuild inventory levels for the new accelerated compute business. Future inventory and revenue expectations are positive, with a focus on continued generation of cash and preparation for future business needs.
Q:How many main cloud customers have contributed to the revenue upside and what is the potential in cloud and OEM business?
A:The Zt business has experienced upside from two main cloud customers, which gives confidence in the numbers. The company is also focused on growth through cloud business, with plans to expand into the OEM business as well. While the details on potential growth in cloud and OEM business were not fully provided, it was mentioned that Zt is conducting business with five cloud customers.
Q:What is the strategy for maximizing capacity at the Zt plant?
A:The strategy for maximizing capacity at the Zt plant involves focusing on current customers and investing in the Zt systems to meet the demand as illustrated by the successful execution on the QT project.
Q:Is Zt focusing on diversifying its customer base beyond the core customer AMD?
A:While Zt is expected to continue benefiting from AMD's scaling capabilities, there is an opportunity to diversify the customer base beyond just AMD.
Q:What does the $16 billion revenue figure represent, and what are the expectations for Zt's contribution?
A:The $16 billion revenue figure is a reference to past comments made upon acquiring Zt and indicates the trajectory of growth. It is expected that Zt will contribute around $7 billion to the growth, assuming high single-digit growth rates.
Q:How does Zt plan to achieve the revenue target of script billion plus?
A:Zt plans to maintain its historical customers while expanding its reach to CSPs, Oems, and other channels. Additionally, Zt aims to enhance its vertical integration, which is expected to make it more important with customers and accelerate time to market.
Q:What details regarding production schedules and revenue recognition will Zt be able to provide once they are locked down?
A:Zt will be able to provide specific guidance once they finalize the number of customers, production schedules, and details on revenue recognition and timing.
Q:What opportunities are there for Zt in the semiconductor sector?
A:Zt sees opportunities to expand vertically by fabricating certain subsystems within the larger system, which is expected to help the growth of what is called Semina core, and make Zt more important to customers by accelerating time to market.
Q:Does Zt need to allocate more R&D to support the projected revenue growth?
A:Zt is investing for the future and has been working closely with its existing key customer base to ensure continued business growth. The company is extending its investment in R&D to build strong relationships with customers and invest in necessary capabilities for today and tomorrow.
Q:How is Zt handling the transition from EMS to value-add ODM service provider?
A:Zt is handling the transition through projects and programs, investing to create the right solutions for customers as part of the transition from EMS to a value-add ODM service provider.
Q:What are the current supply chain challenges Zt is facing?
A:Zt is facing material shortages for certain components such as memory and custom ASICs, which are expected to continue through the remainder of the year and possibly into 2027.
Q:Is there a risk to Zt's revenue due to these supply chain challenges?
A:While there are challenges, there is no significant risk to revenue in China due to manufacturing costs. Zt manages the challenges daily with its great IT system and close supplier relationships. However, the company is constrained by the availability of certain parts and has had to manage unmet shipping demands.
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