Simulations Plus, Inc (SLP.US) 2025财年第四季度业绩电话会
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Simulations Plus reported strong fiscal year 2025 performance with 13% revenue growth to $79.2 million, driven by software and services expansion. Adjusted EBITDA reached $22 million, or 28% of revenue, despite market pressures. The company anticipates cautious growth in FY2026, with revenue forecasted between $79 million and $82 million, focusing on AI integration and core market acquisitions. With $32.4 million in cash, no debt, and a strategic shift to a unified operating model, Simulations Plus is well-positioned for future challenges and opportunities.
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The call discusses the fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025 financial outcomes, including forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures, with a Q&A session to follow.
Despite market volatility, fiscal 2025 saw strong revenue, EBITDA, and adjusted EPS growth. The company completed a strategic transition to a unified operating model, enhancing client focus and positioning for future opportunities. While challenges persisted due to pharmaceutical headwinds, early signs of stabilization and improved funding are noted, with expectations of ongoing uncertainty.
The dialogue highlights the strategic integration of advanced science, cloud computing, and AI to enhance biosimilar development capabilities. It emphasizes the growing demand for scientific rigor, AI-assisted efficiency, and regulatory-grade modeling among biopharma clients. The company is committed to delivering an interconnected ecosystem that supports end-to-end modeling workflows, from discovery to commercialization, aiming to accelerate innovation and streamline processes. Revenue figures for the fiscal year show an increase in total revenue, with a notable rise in software revenue, reflecting the market's positive response to these advancements.
The company achieved a high renewal rate and significant growth in average revenue per client, with mixed performance across software products. Services revenue grew due to medcom business acquisition, while Pbpk and QP services declined. The company maintains a healthy pipeline and expects high backlog conversion.
The fiscal year saw a decrease in software gross margin due to increased amortization expenses. Despite a net loss, adjusted diluted EPS improved. Guidance for FY26 includes revenue growth of 0-4%, software mix of 57-62%, and adjusted EBITDA margin of 26-30%. The company ended with strong cash reserves and no debt, ready to respond to market improvements.
Simulations Plus discusses its evolution into a comprehensive ecosystem for drug discovery and development, emphasizing AI integration and cloud capabilities. Positive trends in biotech funding and client engagement are noted, with cautious optimism for future revenue growth. The company highlights successful client feedback on AI-enhanced products and upcoming investor insights.
The dialogue discusses the cautious optimism of the pharma industry amidst improving conditions and the readiness of the business to support potential future demand increases, highlighting the software and service side's capacity to adapt and grow.
The dialogue reassures unchanged fiscal guidance despite first quarter revenue headwinds, detailing seasonality impacts and reduced proficiency contributions.
Speakers discuss how ongoing biotech funding could positively affect software consulting revenues and acknowledge the inherent risks of cancellations due to program delays or poor outcomes, emphasizing proactive management strategies to mitigate these risks.
The renewal rate in software has fallen below previous years, influenced by large pharma consolidations and budget constraints leading to module scrutiny. The rate is expected to recover as consolidations lessen and annual price increases are implemented.
Discussed factors impacting EBITDA margins, including reduction in force benefits, top-line growth constraints, and rising operational expenses. Guidance indicates a cautious outlook for margin improvements, aiming for 35% EBITDA, contingent on future revenue growth exceeding current projections.
Revenue from the proficiency platform's software side declined significantly due to a slowdown in clinical trial starts and other factors, while medical communications services grew nicely, impacting overall acquisition contributions.
The dialogue covers the percentage breakdown of software and service revenues, with emphasis on the contribution of proficiency software. It discusses visibility into Q1 revenue, the need for increased bookings to meet fiscal year 26 guidance, and the impact of seasonal fluctuations on quarterly growth percentages.
The dialogue discusses the company's 2026 guidance reflecting renewal trends, strong cash flow projections driven by revenue seasonality, and a continued interest in acquisitions within core markets and new areas like clinical operations, aiming for strategic growth.
The dialogue covers pricing strategies, including aggressive price increases tied to AI and cloud enhancements, revenue guidance for fiscal year 26, and the impact of market conditions on service pricing, emphasizing competitive pricing in a challenging environment.
The dialogue concludes a conference call, thanking participants for their interest in simulations. It highlights upcoming events including the T Calendar conference on December 11 in New York and the JPMorgan Conference in San Francisco the following week, inviting attendees to engage further at these events. The call ends with appreciation for participation and a farewell message.
要点回答
Q:What were the financial results for Simulations Plus in the fourth quarter and full fiscal 2025?
A:For the fourth quarter and full fiscal 2025, Simulations Plus reported revenue growth of 8% adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS grew 8%. The company delivered on the full-year guidance set in June despite market volatility.
Q:How did Simulations Plus adjust its organizational structure during fiscal 2025?
A:During fiscal 2025, Simulations Plus completed its transition to a unified operating model, aligning product and technology, scientific R&D, strategic consulting services, and business development into a single client-focused, functionally oriented organization structure.
Q:What challenges did the external environment present to Simulations Plus throughout the year?
A:The external environment was challenging, with client budgets pressured by pharmaceutical headwinds like tariffs and the implementation of most favored nation pricing. However, starting mid-year, there were signs of stabilization as large pharma provided pricing visibility, biotech funding improved, and clients entered budgeting cycles with more confidence.
Q:How is the convergence of cloud computing, AI, and model-informed drug development reshaping biopharma R&D operations?
A:The convergence of these technologies is reshaping biopharma R&D operations by enabling advanced scientific workflows. Simulations Plus is at the forefront of this shift, having laid the groundwork with the release of GastroPlus 10.2 and plans for portfolio-wide updates in fiscal 2026.
Q:What are the customer demands for biosimilars, and how does Simulations Plus plan to meet them?
A:Customers are seeking scientific rigor, integrated workflows, and AI-assisted efficiency in biosimilars. Simulations Plus is meeting these needs by offering a product vision that connects advanced science, cloud scale computation, AI-driven services, into a unified ecosystem supporting teams through discovery to commercialization.
Q:What is the core strategy of Simulations Plus for the coming fiscal 2026?
A:The core strategy for fiscal 2026 is to integrate its product ecosystem, combining validated science, cloud scale performance, and AI grounded in regulatory-grade modeling. This strategy will be realized across products like GastroPlus, Monolith Suite, Admet Predictor, QSP platforms, and proficiency.
Q:What are the revenue contributions of Simulations Plus' products for the quarter and fiscal year?
A:For the quarter, software revenue was 52% of total revenue with discovery products contributing 18%, development products 77%, and clinical ops products 5%. For the fiscal year, discovery products contributed 17%, development products 75%, and clinical ops products 8%.
Q:How many commercial clients does Simulations Plus have, and what is the renewal rate?
A:Simulations Plus ended the fiscal year with 311 commercial clients, an average revenue per client of $94,000, and a renewal rate of 83% for the quarter, with an average revenue per client of $143,000 and a renewal rate of 88% for the fiscal year.
Q:What were the changes in revenue for the quarter compared to the prior year?
A:Services revenue for the quarter declined compared to the prior year, with Pbk services down 10%, QP services down 50%, PK PD services up 18%, and Medcom services up 70% for the quarter.
Q:How did the gross margins for the fiscal year compare to the prior year?
A:The total gross margin for the fiscal year was 58%, with software gross margin at 79% and services gross margin at 30%. This compares to total gross margin of 62% and software/services gross margins of 84% and 30% for the prior year.
Q:What were the percentage changes in research and development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses compared to the prior year?
A:RD expense was 9% of revenue compared to 8% last year, sales and marketing expense was 15% of revenue compared to 13% last year, and G&A expense excluding non-career information items was 25% of revenue, down from 28% last year.
Q:What were the adjusted diluted earnings per share and the fiscal year adjusted EBITDA?
A:The adjusted diluted EPS was 1 dollar 3 this fiscal year compared to 95 cents last year, and the fiscal year adjusted EBITDA was $22 million compared to $20.3 million last year.
Q:What is the company's guidance for the fiscal year 2026?
A:The company's guidance for fiscal year 2026 is total revenue between 79 to 82 million year over year, revenue growth between 0 to 4%, software mix between 57% to 62%, adjusted EBITDA margin between 26% to 30%, and adjusted diluted earnings per share between 1 dollar 3 cents to 1 dollar 10 cents.
Q:How is the demand environment expected to impact the company's business in the upcoming fiscal year?
A:The demand environment is expected to have a mixed bag of impacts on the company's business in the upcoming fiscal year, with an uptick in biotech funding supporting their business and mixed results from large pharma. The company enters the new fiscal year on a good footing, cautious and watchful for any market announcements that may cause a pause in client activity.
Q:What feedback was received on the Gastro Plus release and its integration of AI capabilities?
A:The feedback on the Gastro Plus release, which includes AI capabilities, has been positive, and the company has provided webinars and training to clients prior to its delivery. The impact of this innovation on client discussions is still in an early stage.
Q:What are the clients' initial responses to the new cloud and AI capabilities?
A:The initial responses from clients to the new cloud and AI capabilities have been positive, and they are digesting the information and evolving in terms of their internal IT infrastructure.
Q:What factors are currently influencing the cautious approach of large pharma in increasing spending?
A:Factors influencing the cautious approach of large pharma in increasing spending include most favored nation pricing, tariffs, and a soft funding environment. These factors are being managed within clients' specific drug programs and top line patent expirations as they budget for the upcoming year.
Q:Is there an expectation for improved spending from large pharma based on current budget preparations?
A:Yes, there is a positive outlook for budget preparation for the upcoming year, and if there are a few consecutive quarters without any surprises, this could lead to increased confidence and more firmly committed spending.
Q:Does the company have the appropriate number of staff to support potential revenue growth?
A:The software side of the business is leverageable, and there's capacity for growth without immediate needs in terms of headcount. However, there is some concern about the service side of the business, but the company feels comfortable with current capacity and utilization to support guidance into the next year if business volumes accelerate.
Q:Has the guidance for the upcoming fiscal year been affected by recent events or changes in the business environment?
A:Since the guidance was delivered in October, nothing significant has changed in the underlying assumptions that would affect the guidance for fiscal year 2025. The back half of the year's guidance was adjusted due to lower-than-anticipated revenue in the second quarter of fiscal year 2025, resulting in a reduced expectation for the remainder of the year.
Q:Does the guidance account for any biotech market recovery or increased cancellations?
A:The guidance does not assume any biotech market recovery, and it already factors in a degree of cancellations. The biotech environment is cautiously optimistic, and any further cancellation projections or cautions for the full year would need to be significant enough to alter the current guidance expectations.
Q:What potential impact could new biotech funding have on biotech revenue in the upcoming year?
A:There is no significant uptick projected in biotech funding for the year 2026, which would likely affect the biotech revenue contribution in that year.
Q:What effect do program readouts and delays have on revenue projections?
A:Program readouts and delays can lead to the cancellation or curtailment of programs, which in turn affects the timing and amount of revenue recognized. Bad readouts can result in significant project setbacks, impacting revenue forecasts. The company applies discount factors and risk assessments to account for these delays in their revenue recognition process.
Q:What factors contributed to the decline in software renewal rates and what is expected for future renewal rates?
A:Renewal rates declined due to impactful consolidations and budget constraints leading to scrutiny on configurations, resulting in reduced licensing for platforms and modules from clients. However, the absence of major consolidations and the effects of last year's module review are expected to mitigate the impact on renewal rates. Price increases have also been more aggressive this year, which should positively affect renewal fee rates.
Q:How will the new price increase affect the renewal fees?
A:The new price increase should have a positive effect on renewal fees as the uptake of the annual price increase has been more aggressive this year, which is anticipated to improve renewal fee rates.
Q:What are the expected financial impacts from the reduction in force and top line growth for the upcoming fiscal year?
A:The expected financial impacts include a $4 million reduction in course contributions starting in the fourth quarter, with the first three quarters of the fiscal year accounting for this benefit. Top line growth is expected to be in the range of 0 to 4%, which is not expected to provide significant leverage in EBITDA due to the rise in other expenses such as compensation and medical benefits. The adjusted EBITDA guidance is 26% to 30%, showing some improvement but requires a return to higher top line growth to reach the targeted 35% EBITDA.
Q:What is the projected revenue decline for the first quarter of fiscal year 26, and how does it impact the full-year guidance?
A:The projected revenue decline for the first quarter of fiscal year 26 is through November and is projected to result in a year-over-year decline. Meeting the full-year guidance for fiscal year 26 will require a ramp-up in bookings. The exact impact on the full-year guidance is not detailed, but it is implied that visibility into the revenue decline is quite good.
Q:What is the percentage contribution of the software and service business within the proficiency platform?
A:The proficiency platform's revenue is split approximately 40% software and 60% services.
Q:Does the 2026 guidance contemplate recent renewal trends?
A:Yes, the 2026 guidance does contemplate recent renewal trends, which have been in the low to mid-80s. The increase in renewal rates and revenue guidance includes a year-over-year contribution from these recent trends and a higher price increase implemented this year.
Q:How should cash flow in fiscal 26 be understood, and what is the potential for acquisitions in core markets and beyond?
A:Cash flow in fiscal 26 is expected to follow the revenue seasonality pattern, which is robust even during challenging times. The outlook for acquisitions is positive, with opportunities in the biosimilars and clinical operations markets. The company expects to grow through both organic contributions and acquisitions, and there is a plan to continue this growth strategy into the future.
Q:What pricing flexibility is available and how does it relate to the upcoming AI capabilities roll out?
A:The company's pricing is expected to be more aggressive due to upgrades and new platform capabilities including AI and cloud functions. This monetization strategy will come through separately priced modules and integrated technology into base platforms, supporting more aggressive price increases. The pricing flexibility also accounts for the product's stickiness and the ability to share improvements with clients, particularly with the automation and efficiency provided by AI. However, the full impact of price increases is discounted and spread over time, and there's a cautious approach to price increases in the services sector due to market competition.

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