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天睿公司 (TDC.US) 2025年第三季度业绩电话会
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Teradata's earnings call highlighted its strategic focus on hybrid cloud solutions, expansion of AI services, and operational efficiency initiatives. The company reported strong Q3 financials, including non-GAAP EPS of 72 cents, and expects continued ARR growth and free cash flow improvement. Key announcements include advancements in agentic AI and the launch of Teradata Agent Builder, aimed at accelerating AI deployment and enhancing operational efficiency. Teradata reaffirmed its commitment to delivering value through AI and maintaining a robust financial outlook.
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Terradata's Q3 Earnings Call: Financial Results and Forward-Looking Statements
The call, led by Terradata's president and CEO, outlines Q3 financials, discusses forward-looking statements subject to risks, and provides a non-GAAP financial measures overview. Chad Bennett introduces the call, Steve McMillan leads, and John Editor covers financial results and outlook, emphasizing non-GAAP measures and forward-looking disclosures.
Teradata's Strategic Shift Towards Autonomous AI and Knowledge Platform Leadership
The dialogue highlights Teradata's robust Q3 performance, emphasizing its strategic pivot towards autonomous AI and knowledge platforms. It discusses the resurgence of hybrid environments, Teradata's capability to handle AI workloads, and its recognition as a leader in data management for analytics platforms. The focus is on delivering enterprise context for AI solutions, supporting hybrid cloud deployments, and enhancing performance at scale.
Teradata's Advancements in AI and Data Solutions for Enterprise Transformation
Teradata highlights recent launches including Terra Data-Taking Builder, MCP server, and AI services aimed at accelerating autonomous AI agent development and deployment. The company showcases its commitment to hybrid cloud environments, strategic partnerships, and expanding customer engagements, demonstrating significant progress in AI and data-driven solutions for various industries.
Teradata's Role in Enabling AI-Driven Transformation and Trusted Data Foundations
Teradata celebrated its annual customer event, highlighting advancements in AI and data analytics. Recognized partners showcased innovations in fraud detection, customer engagement, and credit risk management. The company emphasized its commitment to providing a trusted data foundation for AI, fostering partnerships, and enabling autonomous operations. Teradata's focus on context intelligence and hybrid capabilities positions it as a key player in driving enterprise-wide AI transformations.
Q3 Financial Highlights and FY25 Guidance Update for Terra Datata
Discussed Q3 achievements including ARR growth, revenue, and cash flow improvements. Outlined FY25 guidance with updated ARR and revenue targets, emphasizing cost efficiency, AI investments, and shareholder value enhancement.
Analysis of Cloud ARR Sequential Decline and Hybrid Deployment Trends in Q&A Session
A discussion on Cloud ARR performance highlights a sequential decline, attributed to a shift towards more considered cloud deployment decisions and the continued preference for hybrid capabilities. The session reassures on overall ARR growth and future expansion rate consolidation, emphasizing a strategic approach to AI workload acceleration and data estate management.
Confidence in Future Free Cash Flow Growth Due to ARR and Cost Actions
Speakers discuss the factors contributing to their confidence in achieving meaningful free cash flow growth by 2026, emphasizing ARR growth and recent cost-cutting measures as key drivers. They highlight progress made this year in improving free cash flow and assert that current strategies are setting a strong foundation for continued financial improvement.
AI Impact on Pipeline and Guidance Confidence
Discussion highlights AI's growing influence in pipeline, showcasing Teradata's comprehensive AI solutions. Confidence in future guidance stems from detailed KPI analysis and granular deal tracking, ensuring accurate forecasting.
Teradata's Competitive Edge in Hybrid Cloud and AI Workloads
The dialogue highlights Teradata's unique position in the competitive landscape, emphasizing its patented capabilities for efficient hybrid cloud execution, AI factory integration with Nvidia, and a superior query engine for AI workloads. It also touches on leveraging AI in sales motions to improve margins and efficiency.
AI Services Pivot & Organizational Rightsizing for Enhanced Efficiency
Discussion focused on rightsizing services business due to prior year's headwinds, with emphasis on AI services' growing demand. Launch of customer intelligence framework and consulting expertise to address supply constraints, alongside partner collaborations, highlights strategic pivot. Cost alignment with revenue and AI implementation capabilities are key areas for future growth.
Hybrid Growth Strategy: Balancing On-Prem and Cloud Expansion
Discussion highlights the stabilization and growth potential of on-prem solutions alongside cloud advancements, emphasizing a balanced approach to leverage data sovereignty and hybrid environments for enhanced market positioning and customer expansion.
AI Services Pivot & Deployment Choices: A Strategic Consulting Shift
Consulting services are increasingly focusing on AI solutions, acting as a competitive differentiator and supporting technology growth. Customers are choosing deployment options based on workload needs, influenced by current technology capabilities rather than upcoming hardware refreshes, highlighting the importance of flexible deployment models in cloud and on-premises environments.
Teradata's Unified Data Platform for AI-Driven Insights Across Diverse Data Sources
Discusses how Teradata's technology integrates data from various sources, including data lakes and enterprise warehouses, to support ethical and efficient AI solutions, ensuring data reliability and governance.
Analysis of Recurring Revenue Growth and Cloud NRR Trends in Q4
Discussed factors influencing recurring revenue fluctuations and the stabilization outlook for cloud net revenue retention rates, highlighting migration activities and expansion with existing customers as key drivers.
Operational Efficiency Boosts Free Cash Flow and Margins in 2026
The dialogue focuses on operational efficiency measures taken in 2025, expected to significantly enhance free cash flow and margins in 2026. Despite revenue headwinds, the company anticipates operational leverage and cost efficiencies to maintain margin stability, contributing to a stronger financial position for the upcoming year.
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Q:What are the highlights of Terra's third quarter performance?
A:Terra's third quarter performance highlights include beating revenue and recurring revenue guidance ranges, delivering non GAAP earnings per share of 72 cents soundly ahead of outlook, and generating free cash flow ahead of expectations. They also achieved a second consecutive quarter of total AR growth, ahead of initial targets, and expect this growth to continue. Additionally, they foresee meaningful free cash flow growth due to the return to positive AR growth and cost savings.
Q:How is the business of Terra evolving and what is their strategy in the AI space?
A:Terra's business is evolving from a classic EDW to an autonomous AI and knowledge platform. Their strategy in the AI space involves providing the enterprise context required for AI solutions and enabling organizations to effectively deploy AI across hybrid on-premise and cloud environments. They are focusing on delivering AI agents that can operate at scale and handle high volumes of transactions and complex queries, which is crucial for industries looking to leverage AI for business needs.
Q:What are the unique capabilities of the Teradata platform in handling AI workloads?
A:The Teradata platform is uniquely built to handle a variety of workloads, including those increased by 24/7 query potential of AI, which can result in up to a 25x increase in workloads and a 100x increase in compute resources compared to previous modern analytic workloads. The platform is designed with a massively parallel architecture, patented workload management, and query optimization to deliver high performance and predictable costs for the most complex AI workloads.
Q:What recent innovations have been made by Teradata to support AI?
A:Recent innovations by Teradata to support AI include Enterprise Vector Score, which allows the inclusion of unstructured data in integrated knowledge foundations, and enhanced Clarity Skate analytics with unified Model AI capabilities. Additionally, they announced the MCP server for faster context delivery, and are in private preview of the Teradata AI-taking Builder, which supports the development and deployment of intelligent agents. They also introduced autonomous customer intelligence as a software and services offering that leverages Teradata's contextual knowledge across the customer experience journey. Furthermore, they offer new AI services aimed at embedding AI at enterprise scale, utilizing a sprint-based use case driven approach and a combination of consulting and technology expertise.
Q:What expansion is the US healthcare provider undergoing with Teradata?
A:The US healthcare provider is further scaling its Teradata cloud deployment running on Microsoft Azure, building on earlier momentum and enhancing its operational excellence and complex data handling across the entire system.
Q:What are the new capabilities that the financial services company has gained from its partnership with Teradata?
A:The financial services company has gained enhanced security, uninterrupted operations through disaster recovery systems, monthly innovation testing, and strict data sovereignty support from its partnership with Teradata.
Q:What recognition was awarded at the annual customer event 'Possible' and what were the achievements of the winning entities?
A:At the 'Possible' event, Vodafone 3 was recognized for AI-supported fraud detection, strengthening customer trust and operational resilience. Uido Qatar won for its advanced analytical capabilities and AI-driven customer engagement strategy. Credi was recognized for its use of AI in transforming credit risk management and supporting sustainability initiatives, and for developing an Ei agent under Brazilian banking regulations.
Q:What new AI development resource is Teradata launching and when will it be available?
A:Teradata is launching an online agent builder experience to help accelerate the development and deployment of autonomous, contextually intelligent AI agents. It will be available from their website in the coming weeks.
Q:What is Teradata's role in the AI ecosystem according to the company's beliefs?
A:Teradata sees itself as the trusted data foundation that allows other AI innovations to flourish, partnering across all layers of the ecosystem to create a trusted interoperable foundation for AI and provide governance for safe experimentation.
Q:What was the subject of the fireside chat at the Teradata event and what are the expected benefits for customers?
A:The subject of the fireside chat was the combination of Teradata's enterprise-grade analytics with ServiceNow's workflow engine to enable autonomous operations at scale. The expected benefits include seamless integration, governance, and automation to deliver intelligence and automation at an enterprise scale.
Q:How does Teradata integrate business context into its AI solutions?
A:Teradata integrates business context into its AI solutions by turning decades of decision analysis experience into domain and industry knowledge models, ensuring that AI decisions are relevant and reliable with the help of metadata, business logic, and domain expertise.
Q:What are the financial performance indicators for Teradata's third quarter and how do they compare to expectations?
A:For the third quarter, Teradata had total ARR growth ahead of expectations with a second consecutive quarter of positive growth, exceeded top-end guidance for total revenue and recurring revenue, improved gross margin, delivered significant upside on non-GAAP earnings per share, and increased free cash flow year over year. Total ARR grew 1% as reported and flat in constant currency, driven by better retention and expansions.
Q:What is the company's view on the transition within its services business?
A:The company is experiencing a transition in its services business, moving from migration projects to delivering AI services, which is expected to improve performance next year.
Q:What were the gross margins for the third quarter and how did they compare to the previous year and quarter?
A:The total gross margin for the third quarter was 62.3%, which was up 70 basis points year over year, and on a sequential basis, it was up 490 basis points driven by improvements on both recurring and services.
Q:What is the expected range for recurring revenue, total revenue, and non GAAP diluted earnings per share for the fourth quarter?
A:For the fourth quarter, the expected range for recurring revenue is -1% to -3% year over year, on a constant currency basis, total revenue is expected to be in the range of -2% to -4% year over year, and non GAAP diluted earnings per share are expected to be in the range of 53 cents to 57 cents.
Q:How has the guidance for fiscal 2025 been reiterated regarding total ARR growth and Cloud ARR growth?
A:The guidance for fiscal 2025 is reiterated with confidence in the total ARR target and a maintained range for Cloud ARR growth, despite uncertainty from a handful of deals where customers are assessing deployment options.
Q:What is the updated range for free cash flow and the new non GAAP earnings per share guidance for fiscal 2025?
A:The updated range for free cash flow is $260 million to $280 million, and the new non GAAP earnings per share guidance is a range of $2.38 to $2.42, reflecting strong performance in Q3 based on foreign exchange rates.
Q:What are the actions being taken to drive shareholder value and how are they expected to contribute to future performance?
A:To drive shareholder value, the actions taken include returning total ARR growth to positive territory, focusing on cost efficiencies, driving consistency in the business, and stabilizing free cash flow, all of which are expected to contribute to profitable growth and higher free cash flow.
Q:What factors contribute to the confidence in achieving meaningful free cash flow growth?
A:The confidence in achieving meaningful free cash flow growth stems from the company's focus on key drivers such as Total Arr returning to growth territory and the positive impact of cost actions taken in the last year and the current year. These factors are expected to continue improving the free cash flow next year.
Q:How has the integration of AI influenced the pipeline and what are some specific areas contributing to this?
A:The integration of AI has led to an increase in the influence of AI within the pipeline. Specific areas contributing to this include agent offerings, MP server, and capabilities like the enterprise vector store, as well as model ops with language model integration. These innovations are expected to help customers deploy generative AI workloads and are considered a major contribution to moving the needle in AI discussions.
Q:What is Teradata's unique position in the AI technology market?
A:Teradata is positioned as a provider that integrates multiple AI capabilities into a holistic solution. The company's approach is to support AI workloads effectively, with an 'always on' AI agent that can execute complex queries efficiently. The Teradata platform is built for these workloads, offering a unique advantage in query execution and workload management.
Q:What is the philosophy on guidance and what metrics are used to evaluate performance?
A:The philosophy on guidance is to 'call it as we see it,' meaning that the guidance is based on the forecast and a review of various KPIs, including pipeline, expenses, revenue model, and other metrics. For Q4, the focus is on a deal-by-deal basis to provide granularity in the forecast and resulting guidance.
Q:What is Teradata's strategy to compete with other data platforms such as Databricks and Snowflake?
A:Teradata's strategy to compete with platforms like Databricks and Snowflake is based on its patented capabilities that allow the execution of AI workloads effectively and efficiently, both on-prem and in the cloud. This hybrid environment is a differentiator for Teradata, which also benefits from partnerships, like the one with Nvidia, for future on-prem capabilities. Teradata's focus is on delivering a superior query engine to execute AI workloads and provide enterprise context, leveraging its extensive experience across various industries.
Q:What recent progress has been made in sales growth and how is the company planning to leverage AI further?
A:The company has made progress in improving the sales growth margin to positive, with expectations that the use of AI within the sales motion will continue to drive better margins. The team is anticipated to leverage FDE (Favorable Dollar Environment) and AI to enhance efficiency and potentially improve margins. Additionally, there is a view to further leverage AI within the company to drive better outcomes.
Q:What measures are being taken to rightsize the organization in relation to the current revenue stream?
A:The measures to rightsize the organization include aligning the cost structure with the anticipated revenue and focusing on cost management in line with the current revenue stream.
Q:How is the company leveraging AI internally and what presentations at the recent conference are recommended for more information?
A:The company is focusing on internal AI initiatives that touch all parts of the business from cost of revenue through the operating lines. Presentations at the recent conference specifically discussed these internal efforts, which are recommended for more detailed information.
Q:What is the company's observation on customer appetite for AI deployment and the capabilities being offered?
A:The company observes a strong customer appetite for deploying real AI solutions. They are capitalizing on this by launching the customer intelligence framework and providing consulting expertise to implement AI solutions. The company's most recent press release highlights these AI services and their potential to enable customers in the market, with a strong emphasis on partnership delivery.
Q:What trajectory is the cloud on-prem business expected to follow in the next couple of quarters?
A:The cloud on-prem business is expected to follow a stabilizing trajectory with an improving rate of change. On-prem growth is attributed to retention and expansion of on-prem environments, while cloud growth is expected to continue as per the company's observations.
Q:How does the company view its position in terms of growth opportunities in the hybrid environment and data sovereignty requirements?
A:The company views itself well-positioned to take advantage of growth opportunities in the hybrid environment where some customers have data sovereignty requirements or data gravity on-prem. This strategy also supports growth in the cloud as successful expansion rates in the cloud are anticipated to continue.
Q:Is the focus on AI services in consulting expected to stabilize or continue shifting towards the partner ecosystem?
A:The focus on AI services within the consulting realm is not expected to stabilize but rather continue shifting towards a partner ecosystem. The company operates with an Arr growth focus and recognizes the importance of a strong consulting and services capability to support their technology value proposition. As such, the transition to AI services is viewed as a competitive differentiator, with the aim to increase relevance in the marketplace and support both existing and new customers with AI solutions. The company has a go-to-market model that supports a forward-deployed engineering approach, ensuring that proof of concepts (POCs) are successfully implemented by both their consulting and services teams and their partners.
Q:Is the dynamic in customer deployment options assessments related to the upcoming hardware refresh and what technology capabilities are influencing these decisions?
A:The dynamic in customer deployment options assessments is not related to the upcoming hardware refresh but is influenced by the current technology that enables choices in workload deployment. The AI factory available in the current technology stack gives customers the choice of where to run their workloads, either in the cloud or on-prem. The hybrid environment offered by the company gives customers the choice of deployment, which aligns with their requirements and the technology capabilities provided.
Q:What is the purpose of combining different data stores using Queue 0 technology?
A:Queue 0 technology is used to combine various data stores, ensuring that data from any location within the ecosystem can be governed, reliable, and combined, whether it originates from a data lake or an enterprise data warehouse. This allows for integration into a language model and a trusted environment.
Q:Why must AI solutions be trusted, ethical, and efficient?
A:AI solutions must be trustworthy and ethical because they need to be able to be tracked back through the process, which is where the Teradata platform excels by combining different data sources to run efficiently and effectively.
Q:What factors could explain the change in recurring revenue growth assumptions between Q3 and Q4?
A:The variability in recurring revenue growth assumptions between Q3 and Q4 could be due to the mix of upfront revenue from premise subscriptions, which can affect the expected linearity if there's more upfront revenue in any given quarter.
Q:What has been the net expansion rate's performance and what is expected for Q4?
A:The net expansion rate has seen some consolidation, with approximately 50% of it coming from migration activity and the remainder from expansions with existing customers. This is expected to continue into Q4, with the net expansion rate stabilizing and closely following the overall cloud ARR growth.
Q:What is the projected trajectory for Opex and how does the government shutdown affect it?
A:There has been a focus on operational efficiency, effectiveness, and productivity measures, with full year impacts expected to boost free cash flow in 2026. The government shutdown is not expected to impact revenues, but it does not directly influence the Opex trajectory.
Q:What can be inferred about free cash flow margin and operating leverage?
A:Free cash flow margin is anticipated to be stable, with operating leverage being a key factor. The company has managed to maintain a comparable operating margin despite revenue headwinds, and operational efficiency from cost efficiency measures will continue to benefit the company next year. While a specific number for the free cash flow margin is not provided, the actions taken by the company are believed to set a strong foundation for the future.
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