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D-Wave Quantum Inc.(QBTS.US) 2025年第三季度业绩电话会
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D-Wave Systems Inc. achieved a 100% revenue increase to $3.7 million in Q3 2025, securing a €10 million contract for a quantum computer in Europe, operational in 2026. The company highlights partnerships, proof-of-concept successes, and a $650 million cash increase to $836.2 million, positioning for growth, mergers, and profitability through system sales, quantum computing as a service, and professional services. D-Wave emphasizes its competitive edge in delivering real-world quantum solutions, advancing gate model quantum computing, and expanding market presence.
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D-Wave's Q3 2025 Earnings Call Highlights and Financial Guidance
A d-wave earnings call summary for Q3 2025, featuring a listen-only format with question-and-answer session, compliance reminders, and non-GAAP financial measures discussion. Participants include an investor relations director, CEO, and CFO, focusing on earnings, financial performance, and investor relations.
D-Wave's Q3 2025 Results Highlight Global Quantum Computing Expansion and Customer Success
D-Wave's Q3 2025 financials underscore momentum across key metrics. The company's quantum solutions, including Advantage I, are gaining global traction, with engagements from major airlines, chemical companies, and banks. D-Wave's technology, notably in hybrid quantum applications, is demonstrating real-world efficiency gains, such as optimizing manufacturing workflows and enhancing drug discovery processes. The firm is also expanding its presence through initiatives like the Q Alliance in Italy and hosting its first CBIT Japan User Conference, signaling a robust path toward profitability and industry leadership.
Superconducting Technology Leads in Quantum Computing's Future, D-Wave Highlights
The dialogue discusses superconducting technology's dominance in quantum computing, emphasizing gate speed and scalability advantages. D-Wave's commitment to superconducting for both annealing and gate model systems is outlined, along with the company's progress in product development, including Gate Auto program advancements.
D-Wave's Quantum Computing Advancements: Demonstrating Supremacy and Expanding Market Opportunities
D-Wave emphasizes its competitive edge in quantum computing by developing both annealing and gate model systems. The company highlights the operational Advantage Two system, showcasing quantum supremacy and real-world problem-solving capabilities. It also discusses advancements in gate model technology, strategic partnerships, and financial stability, positioning D-Wave as a leader in quantum computing with immediate commercial applications.
Q3 Earnings Review: Revenue Growth, Pipeline Expansion, and Gross Margin Improvement
Revenue increased by 100% to $3.7 million in Q3 2025, driven by higher-margin systems upgrades. Bookings grew by 3% to $2.4 million, with a significant $10 million European agreement. Gross margins improved to 77.7% non-GAAP, reflecting enhanced profitability and operational efficiency.
Significant Financial Impact Due to Warrant Liability Remeasurement and System Sale
Company reports increased net and adjusted net losses, primarily due to non-cash charges from warrant liability remeasurement. Revenue and gross profits rise significantly, mainly from a high-margin system sale. Adjusted EBITDA loss increases, reflecting higher operating expenses offset by improved gross profits.
D-Wave's Unique Revenue Model: A Contrast to Traditional Quantum Computing Companies
D-Wave's revenue model stands apart with its focus on quantum computing as a service, professional services, and system sales, offering commercial-grade, scalable solutions. Unlike competitors reliant on government-funded R&D for low-margin, experimental systems, D-Wave emphasizes accessible, real-world problem-solving capabilities, aiming for sustainable growth through production applications and direct system sales.
Dwa's Quantum Leap: Record Cash Balance and Warrant Proceeds Boost Financial Health
Dwa's third-quarter cash balance soared to $836.2 million, a 2700% year-over-year increase, fueled by $40.3 million from warrant exercises. The company redeemed outstanding warrants, potentially adding $21.3 million in cash post-quarter. This financial momentum positions Dwa to become the first independent, publicly held quantum computing company to achieve sustained profitability with less funding than peers.
Shift in US Government Attention Towards Quantum Computing's Practical Applications
A quantum computing company highlights its unique approach by focusing on practical, scalable solutions for government problems, distinguishing itself from peers seeking R&D funding. The dialogue emphasizes growing recognition of the company's quantum computers' capabilities in delivering tangible benefits, particularly in areas like military logistics, resource placement, and equipment maintenance, marking a shift in US government interest towards leveraging quantum technology for real-world applications.
Superconducting Quantum Computing: Advancements and Timelines
A discussion on the development of a superconducting gate model quantum computer, highlighting the use of fluxon qubits, cryogenic control, and plans for scalable logical qubit structures, with a timeline extending several years for error-corrected systems.
Exploring Quantum Computing's Role in National Security Initiatives
A discussion on leveraging quantum computing for national security, highlighting the collaboration with Davidson and the advancement towards a certified quantum computer for classified government applications.
Q&A on Q Alliance's System Purchase Option and Contract Details
The dialogue revolves around the purchase option held by a party for a system, with inquiries on the financial implications of exercising this option mid-contract. The speaker indicates that specific details on the purchase process and financial adjustments have not been disclosed, leaving the exact terms and credit for expenditures under the €10 million contract unclear.
Innovative Procurement Model for System Deployment and Global Expansion
The dialogue explores an innovative procurement model where alliances and governments can secure 50% capacity of a system for five years with an option to fully purchase it, potentially setting a precedent for global expansion and strategic partnerships. This model, similar to past implementations, allows for gradual system acquisition and could serve as a blueprint for future deals, enabling companies to establish a presence worldwide while offering flexible purchasing options to customers.
Investment Strategy and Future Growth Plans for Enhanced Technology and Market Expansion
The dialogue discusses the company's strategy to moderately increase investments, focusing on R&D and sales/marketing, with a goal to accelerate technology and market capabilities. It highlights plans for a gate model program, enhancing system sales, and exploring enterprise licensing deals for multiple applications. The conversation also touches on expected operational expense increases for the remainder of the year, without providing specific guidance for the first half of the following year.
Cubit's Focus on Quantum Computing Over Ancillary Quantum Opportunities
The dialogue highlights the company's decision to concentrate solely on quantum computing, dismissing ancillary quantum opportunities such as quantum networking, sensing, and quantum key distribution as non-central to their core objectives. The speaker asserts that these additional technologies are not critical for their systems, emphasizing a laser-like focus on advancing quantum computing capabilities.
Exploring Quantum Computing Applications in Industry
Discussion covered Skywater's use of quantum processing unit (QPU) for operational optimization, undisclosed applications with a major airline, and BASF's engagement with quantum technology, highlighting industry-specific problem-solving strategies.
Quantum Computing's Business Momentum and Inflection Point in Optimization
The dialogue highlights the growing interest from large companies in quantum optimization, marking an inflection point towards more aggressive market penetration. Successes in proofs of concept and advancements in technology, particularly the Advantage two platform and NL hybrid solver, are driving this momentum. The conversation concludes with optimism about the company's position and future updates, underscoring its leadership in quantum computing.
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Q:What are the key business metrics that have shown ongoing momentum according to the d-wave third quarter 2025 results?
A:The key business metrics that have shown ongoing momentum according to the d-wave third quarter 2025 results include revenue, gross profit, bookings, and a healthy cash balance.
Q:What recent event at the United Nations is relevant to the quantum industry and d-wave specifically?
A:The recent event at the United Nations that is relevant to the quantum industry and d-wave is the declaration of 2025 as the International Year of Quantum Science and Technology, highlighting growing global interest in quantum solutions and the impact of d-wave's technology.
Q:What is the purpose of the Q Alliance mentioned by d-wave, and what are the details of the contract with d-wave?
A:The purpose of the Q Alliance is to create a quantum hub in Italy that advances scientific discovery, industrial transformation, and digital sovereignty. The details of the contract with d-wave involve a €10 million agreement for a Dwave Advantage annealing quantum computer in Lombardi, Italy, with a 50% capacity of an Advantage I system for five years, and the option to purchase the full system.
Q:Why does d-wave believe sales are important for business growth and shareholder value?
A:D-wave believes sales are important for business growth and shareholder value because the company is laser-focused on a path to profitability built on customer value, which is considered key to business growth and enhancing shareholder value in both the near and long term.
Q:What new and renewing customer engagements were signed by d-wave in the third quarter?
A:In the third quarter, d-wave signed new and renewing customer engagements with various organizations for both commercial and research applications, including SkyWater, Japan Tobacco's pharmaceutical division, Yapi Kredi, and a company specializing in quantum computing and AI infrastructure in Korea.
Q:What were the results of the proof of concept project with BASF using hybrid quantum technology?
A:The proof of concept project with BASF using hybrid quantum technology resulted in a 14% reduction in set up time, a 9% reduction in tank unloading durations, and a new benchmark for manufacturing efficiency with production scheduling time reduced from 10 hours to just seconds.
Q:What was the outcome of the proof of concept with North Wales Police using hybrid quantum applications?
A:The outcome of the proof of concept with North Wales Police using hybrid quantum applications was that the hybrid solution enabled them to respond over 90% of incidents within their target response time, reduced average incident response time by nearly 50%, and reduced police vehicle coordination time from four months to 4 minutes, with the potential for national scaling.
Q:What is the impact of the work with Japan Tobacco on drug discovery using quantum AI?
A:The impact of the work with Japan Tobacco on drug discovery using quantum AI is that they are using d-wave's quantum technology and AI to improve the drug discovery process and have received second responses from the Dwave quantum computer, which is leading to improved performance versus classical computing alone.
Q:How does d-wave compare to classical methods in terms of quantum optimization results?
A:D-wave's quantum annealing is highlighted as the most effective method of quantum optimization, demonstrated by being 1000 times faster than classical and quantum approaches in an IBM study and by producing higher quality solutions.
Q:What was the significance of the cubic Japan User Conference hosted by d-wave?
A:The significance of the cubic Japan User Conference hosted by d-wave was that it was a successful event where Dr. Trevor Lamping, the chief development officer, and others addressed a very enthusiastic audience, including many leading companies and academic institutions, celebrating d-wave's contributions to quantum computing technology.
Q:What are the two primary architectural approaches to quantum computing systems mentioned in the speech?
A:The two primary architectural approaches to quantum computing systems mentioned in the speech are annealing and gate model.
Q:Why does the speaker believe superconducting technology will win in the long run for quantum computing?
A:The speaker believes superconducting technology will win in the long run for quantum computing because it is estimated to have gate speed 1000 to 10000 times faster compared to other major technologies. The speaker also believes that while approaches like ion trap or neutral atom may hold some near-term advantages in terms of cubic fidelity, the gate speed advantage will substantially close over time.
Q:What advantage does d-wave see in using superconducting technology for both its annealing and gate model development programs?
A:D-wave sees the advantage of using superconducting technology for both its annealing and gate model development programs because unlike gate model systems which will require error correction and are probably 5 plus years away from being truly commercial ready, their annealing systems are available for commercial use today. Furthermore, much of the proven superconducting technology developed for their annealing systems is expected to provide a competitive advantage for their gate model system.
Q:What is the unique feature of the cryogenic control technology mentioned by the speaker?
A:The unique feature of the cryogenic control technology mentioned by the speaker is that it is a patented technology, which to the speaker's knowledge, no other gate model company has today, and it will almost certainly be needed to compete effectively with D-wave's future gate model systems.
Q:What advancements have been made in the Gate Auto program by D-wave?
A:D-wave has made solid progress in their Gate Auto program, including the completion of the fabrication of flexon garden cubic chips and superconducting control chips, and they are now bonding the two to demonstrate scalable control of gate model qubits.
Q:What does the Advantage two system from D-wave demonstrate and where is it being utilized?
A:The Advantage two system from D-wave demonstrates the ability to solve mission-critical computational problems that are beyond the reach of classical computers. It is now operational at Davidson Technology Headquarters in Huntsville, Alabama, and is being utilized for collaborative work focused on national security and defense in areas such as radar detection, resource deployment, military logistics optimization, material science, and AI.
Q:What is the focus of D-wave's work on Advantage 3?
A:The focus of D-wave's work on Advantage 3 is on innovation and scaling, including increased connectivity and coherence, next-generation addressing, and multi-processor fabric to accelerate their path to 100,000 qubits.
Q:What are the claims made by D-wave regarding quantum annealing and its comparison with classical computing?
A:D-wave claims that their D wave Advantage 2 system is the only quantum computer that has demonstrated the ability to solve an important, useful problem that can't be solved classically, and they are the only ones that have shown that they can do better than classical at all. No other quantum computer has been able to demonstrate anything better than classical, let alone supremacy, according to D-wave's claims.
Q:What are the characteristics of the 'real deal' system mentioned in the speech?
A:The 'real deal' system is characterized by high availability and low response times, as opposed to systems that are frequently down with multi-hour queueing delays.
Q:What financial metrics is John reviewing for the third quarter and first nine months of 2025?
A:John is reviewing non-GAAP operating metrics including bookings and non-GAAP financial metrics such as non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP gross margins, adjusted net loss, adjusted net loss per share, and adjusted EBITDA loss.
Q:What was the increase in bookings from the third quarter of 2024 to the immediately preceding second quarter?
A:Bookings for the third quarter of 2025 increased by 1.1 million, or 80%, compared to the immediately preceding fiscal 2025 second quarter bookings.
Q:What significant agreement was signed after the close of the quarter, and what will its impact be?
A:After the close of the quarter, a script million Euro agreement was signed to place a VA Advantage I system in Europe. This will be reflected in the fourth quarter bookings, which to date have totaled over €150 million. The agreement is for one-half the capacity of an Advantage II system over a five-year period with an option to purchase the entire system at any time at a price within the range of the targeted system pricing of €20 to €40 million.
Q:How did GAAP gross profit and non-GAAP gross profit compare in the third quarter of fiscal 2025?
A:GAAP gross profit for the third quarter of fiscal 2025 was 2.7 million, an increase of 1.7 million from the fiscal 2024 third quarter. Non GAAP gross profit for the same period was 2.9 million, an increase of 1.6 million from the fiscal 2024 third quarter. GAAP gross margin was 71.4%, and non GAAP gross margin was 77.7%, showing year-over-year improvements.
Q:What were the net loss figures for the third quarter compared to the fiscal 2024 third quarter?
A:The net loss for the third quarter was $140.8 million or 41 cents per share, compared with a net loss of $22.7 million or 11 cents per share in the fiscal 2024 third quarter. The increase is mainly due to non-cash, non-operating charges related to the remeasurement of the company's warrant liability and realized losses from warrant exercises.
Q:What is the adjusted EBITDA loss for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, and how does it compare to the fiscal 2024 nine-month period?
A:The adjusted EBITDA loss for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, was $46.7 million, an increase of 6.1 million, or 15%, from an adjusted EBITDA loss of $48.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2024.
Q:What are the primary components of D-Wave's revenue model?
A:D-Wave's revenue model consists of three primary components: Quantum Computing as a service (QCAD), professional services, and system sales.
Q:What does D-Wave's revenue model contrast with regarding other independent quantum computing companies?
A:D-Wave's revenue model contrasts with other independent quantum computing companies which primarily rely on low-margin government-funded research and development (R&D) recognized under GAAP as revenue. These companies develop systems that may or may not be purchased by government entities, focusing on experimental or R&D purposes rather than commercial-grade, scalable production systems.
Q:How does D-Wave's approach to Quantum Computing as a service differ from other companies?
A:D-Wave's approach to Quantum Computing as a service involves a recurring subscription revenue model through a cloud-based service, providing customers with access to their own commercial-grade systems. They believe they are at an early stage in developing the QCAD business with most of the revenue base comprised of smaller deal sizes, but their production systems have the potential for over $100 million in annual revenue capacity.
Q:What are the distinguishing features of D-Wave's system sales compared to other quantum computing companies?
A:D-Wave's system sales are distinguished by their highly scalable, commercial-grade systems designed to solve real problems, as opposed to other quantum computing companies that typically sell development stage, low-qubit count systems for research experimentation.
Q:How has D-Wave's financial position evolved over time?
A:D-Wave's financial position has significantly improved over time. As of September 30, 2025, their consolidated cash balance totaled $836.2 million, representing a 2700% increase from the year earlier period. This marks a considerable rise from the fiscal 2020 third-quarter consolidated cash balance of $29.3 million and a 2% increase from the fiscal 2025 second quarter's balance of $819.3 million.
Q:What does the recent U.S. government deal signify for D-Wave?
A:The recent U.S. government deal signifies that D-Wave is now gaining attention and recognition from the U.S. government for its quantum computing capabilities, after previously receiving more attention from foreign governments. This deal is part of an alliance for national security work and represents a shift towards increased focus and interest in D-Wave's technology by the U.S. government.
Q:When is the expectation for having the first demonstration of scalable error-corrected gate model system?
A:The expectation is to have the first demonstration of a scalable error-corrected gate model system within the next year.
Q:How does the company plan to ensure the system can run classified applications?
A:The plan is to secure the system to ensure it can run classified versions of applications, making it the first quantum computer certified for classified government applications.
Q:What are the details regarding the potential purchase by Q Alliance?
A:The details around how the purchase would occur have not been disclosed, and it is not assumed that the €10 million contract for half the system would equate to double that amount for the full system purchase.
Q:Could the Q Alliance deal serve as a blueprint for future deals and establishing points of presence?
A:Yes, the Q Alliance deal could serve as a blueprint for future deals and establishing points of presence across the world, similar to the model used with the Uli Supercomputing Center.
Q:What is the investment strategy regarding the RD and sales and marketing expenses?
A:The company plans to increase investment in Research and Development (RD) and Sales and Marketing (S&M) moderately, by approximately 15% on a year-over-year basis in the next half, to accelerate technology and its go-to-market capability.
Q:What is the focus of the increased investment in the gate model program?
A:The increased investment will focus on the gate model program, where the company believes it has unique and valuable technology that will allow for a short-term progression.
Q:What are the plans for moving an application into production and what are the potential benefits of a deal involving multiple proofs of concept and applications in production?
A:The plans involve moving an application that is looking promising into production. The potential benefits of a deal could involve an enterprise license that bundles several production apps and proofs of concept, which could accelerate professional services and UCAS sales and revenue.
Q:What are Cubit's current focuses in the quantum market and what technology do they view as central to their operations?
A:Cubit is laser-focused on quantum computing and does not see quantum interconnect, sensing, or quantum key distribution as central to their operations. They do not require quantum networking for their systems in the foreseeable future, focusing instead on quantum computing.
Q:What are the specific uses of the company's technology by new customers SkyWater and an unnamed airline company?
A:SkyWater is using the company's QPU to look into optimization problems in their operations. The unnamed airline company is using the technology for purposes not disclosed to the public.
Q:What are the recent trends in the company's engagement with larger companies regarding optimization problems and what technology advancements are contributing to this progress?
A:The company has started engaging with much larger companies interested in addressing larger and more challenging optimization problems. This interest is a result of successful initial proofs of concept and inquiries about potential deals that could bundle multiple proofs of concept and production applications. The recent advancements in the company's professional services and UCAS business, particularly on the Advantage two platform with a powerful NISQ hybrid solver, have contributed to better results with customers.
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