捷普集团 (JBL.US) 2025财年第三季度业绩电话会
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Jabil reported strong Q3 financial results with a focus on healthcare, intelligent infrastructure, and digital commerce. The company experienced significant growth in AI-related cloud and data center infrastructure, leading to a new $500 million investment in a US site for high-complexity AI racks and power management solutions. Jabil also highlighted its commitment to returning value to shareholders and the expansion of its transceiver business following the acquisition of photonics capabilities.
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The call welcomes participants to Jabil's third quarter fiscal year 2025 conference, highlighting the presence of the CFO and CEO. It notes the live streaming of the presentation and the availability of slides on the company's website. The discussion includes forward-looking statements regarding the business outlook, including net revenue and earnings expectations, with a disclaimer on potential discrepancies due to risks and uncertainties.

The enterprise level performance for the third quarter exceeded expectations, with significant growth in net revenue, core operating income, and earnings per share. The intelligent infrastructure business, particularly AI-related revenue, drove this success, alongside regulated and CLTC segments performing as planned. Revenue strength was mainly attributed to cloud and data center infrastructure, with higher-than-expected demand in capital equipment and connected living markets. Operating margins improved year over year, and core diluted earnings per share saw a 35% increase compared to the previous year. The regulated industries segment reported flat revenue year over year, reflecting softness in evol renewable end markets, partially offset by growth in other areas.

The healthcare segment's operating margin saw a sequential increase but a year-over-year decline due to below-normal profitability in evol and renewables. The intelligent infrastructure segment reported revenue growth driven by strong demand in AI-related cloud and data center infrastructure, offset slightly by lower networking and communications demand. The Connected Living and digital commerce segment revenue was slightly higher than expected, with a year-over-year decrease mainly due to softness in consumer products. Operating margins improved year-over-year due to restructuring actions and changing business mix. Cash flow from operations was strong, and the company is on track to generate over $1 billion in free cash flow for the year, exiting the quarter with a healthy balance sheet.

In Q3, the company repurchased $339 million of its shares, aiming to complete the current $1 billion share repurchase authorization in Q4. For Q4 FY 25, the revenue guidance by segment includes a decline in regulated industries revenue due to cautious outlook on renewable markets and potential impacts from US legislation. The intelligent infrastructure segment is expected to see strong growth driven by AI-related advancements in cloud data center infrastructure. The connected living and digital commerce segment is projected to see a decline, reflecting softness in consumer-centric products. Total company revenue for Q4 is forecasted in a specific range, with operating income and diluted earnings per share estimates provided. The company highlights its strategic alignment with high-growth trends such as AI and industrial automation, emphasizing its competitive position and resilience amid geopolitical uncertainties.

The speaker highlights the global team's remarkable dedication and execution amidst a complex geopolitical landscape, emphasizing the competitive advantage of localized manufacturing solutions. The third quarter saw strong results, particularly in cloud and data center infrastructure, with AI-related revenue projected to reach $8.5 billion, marking a 50% increase year-on-year.

A new site in the Southeastern US will be opened to support the growing demand for AI data center infrastructure, with an expected investment of $500 million over several years. This expansion aims to enhance design, architecture, and manufacturing capabilities for high-complexity AI racks and liquid cooling systems, diversifying revenue growth in the AI hyperscale space. Additionally, the company is focusing on digital commerce, robotics, automation, and healthcare segments for further growth, while monitoring potential impacts of US legislation on renewable energy markets. The full-year revenue guidance for fiscal 25 is raised to approximately $20 billion, with a focus on enhancing core margins, optimizing cash flow, and returning value to shareholders through share repurchases and targeted investments.

Jabil reported strong Q1 results with core EPS above guidance, driven by intelligent infrastructure performance. They announced increased US investments in AI and data center markets for future growth and plan to host their 8th annual Virtual Investor briefing in late September to outline fiscal year expectations for operating margins, core EPS, and adjusted free cash flow.

The company is experiencing significant growth in data center and cloud revenues, with AI-related revenues forecasted to reach $8.5 billion for fiscal 25. The team has performed well, achieving notable results in recent quarters. Different segments within intelligent infrastructure show varying revenue growth and margins: capital equipment is expected to be accretive with wafer fab equipment having a slightly higher margin, while cloud data center growth is explosive and beneficial for the company. Networking is anticipated to be slightly accretive, whereas communications, particularly EDG, are more dilutive to margins.

The discussion outlines strategies to increase operating margins from the current 5.4% to over 6%, emphasizing the importance of better capacity utilization, particularly in non-US geographies, leveraging sales, general, and administrative (SG&A) expenses as the company grows, and expanding into higher-margin businesses and vertical integration initiatives such as pharma filling and deeper end-to-end solutions with customers.

The company clarifies that Q3 sales strength was not significantly influenced by tariff-related buying pull-ins, particularly in capital equipment and cloud data center infrastructure. The guidance for sequential revenue moderation in Q4 doesn't factor in major tariff impacts due to the ongoing fluidity of the situation. Regarding the announced US expansion, it's driven by a diversified portfolio aimed at expanding the customer base, including hyperscalers and polo-based customers, with a focus on the AI ecosystem, encompassing liquid cooling and power management technologies.

The discussion focuses on the company's recent quarterly margins, particularly noting the flat margin of 5.3% despite an $800 million increase in revenue. Factors affecting margins include incremental investments and the mix impact due to the dilutive effect of the communications 5G side. Looking ahead, strategies for managing rapid growth are highlighted, including ensuring capacity expansion aligns with customer demand, engaging with potential customers, and capitalizing on opportunities in technologies like cloud data center, photonics, liquid cooling, and thermal and power management.

The investment in U.S. manufacturing is largely AI-driven, focusing on sectors like healthcare, intelligent infrastructure, and digital commerce. Despite tariff uncertainties, the company has regionalized its manufacturing base, minimizing impacts. Free cash flow is strong, with a commitment to returning value to shareholders through share buybacks. The company plans to continue this policy and expects to complete its current $1 billion share authorization program soon.

The quarter and guidance saw significant upside, driven by the intelligent infrastructure segment. The testing cycle for custom chip requirements with new technologies and AI-based infrastructure is expanding, contributing to growth. The cloud data center revenue increase was primarily due to successful server rack integration, facilitated by design, architecture, and engineering teams. The market is growing and accelerating, with the company winning market share. Future growth drivers include liquid cooling and power management. The transceiver business is experiencing good growth, with demand on the rise. The company acquired design and engineering capabilities through the photonics acquisition from Intel, enabling the building of transceivers. Demand is moving from 200G to 400G, with an uptick expected towards the end of the year or early next year.

The discussion centers around the Q4 guidance for regulated industries, connected living, and digital commerce, with a focus on the modest decline in the former two segments and the rapid growth in intelligent infrastructure. Prudence in guidance for regulated industries, particularly in evol and renewables, and in consumer living and digital commerce is noted, alongside a cautious approach to revenue guidance. The company highlights healthcare and digital commerce as growth areas, with specific mention of warehouse automation, handheld devices, and humanoid robots, indicating excitement about these sectors despite the conservative outlook.

The discussion focuses on the allocation of 500 million between capital and operating expenses for expanding manufacturing capacity. There's a consideration of whether to tilt manufacturing more towards the US or maintain international locations due to varying levels of utilization. The speaker emphasizes the regionalized nature of the current manufacturing base and the long-term nature of capital expenditures, noting comfort with the existing capital expenditure range.

The discussion focuses on the revenue opportunity and growth plans associated with a $500 million investment over the next couple of years, particularly in the cloud, data center, and networking sectors. Despite the dilution caused by 5G, the networking space is expected to see accretive margins and significant growth, with Protonix ramping up in the networking line item. The $500 million investment is crucial for capacity expansion to meet multiyear growth targets in intelligent infrastructure, although existing capacities are also being ramped up in various locations. The high potential for growth at the new site is emphasized, with significant revenue expected over multiple years. Additionally, the biggest risk to the company's strong position is queried, alongside the prioritization of M&A versus buybacks over the next year.

Despite some downward moves in specific markets, positive highlights include gains in new customers and minimal tariff impacts in the China business. The power business with the largest customer is performing well, offsetting lower car volume sales. The speaker emphasizes prudence in managing risks within the renewable energy and infrastructure line item, noting small hiccups rather than major concerns.

The company discusses its history of making capability-driven acquisitions, emphasizing recent purchases that open up significant opportunities. There's no current plan to alter the capital allocation methodology, with a focus on buybacks, although the board may renew the buyback authorization in July. The speaker notes that if a larger, highly accretive M&A opportunity arises, the company is well-positioned to execute due to its low debt-to-EBITDA ratio, indicating flexibility in leveraging additional debt if necessary.
要点回答
Q:What was the performance of Jabil's third quarter fiscal 2025?
A:Jabil's third quarter fiscal 2025 performance was strong, with revenue coming in at $7.8 billion, exceeding expectations by 16% year over year and $800 million over the midpoint of the guidance range provided in March. Core operating income was solidly above the range at $403 million, and core diluted earnings per share increased by 35% to $2.55.
Q:What were the main drivers of revenue growth in the third quarter?
A:The revenue growth in the third quarter was primarily driven by cloud and data center infrastructure, as well as higher-than-expected demand in the capital equipment and connected living end markets.
Q:What was the performance of the regulated industry segment?
A:The regulated industry segment reported revenue of $2.9 billion, which was flat year over year, reflecting ongoing softness in the renewable end markets, partially offset by growth in the healthcare business.
Q:How did the intelligent infrastructure business perform?
A:The intelligent infrastructure business saw significant revenue growth, with a segment revenue of $8 billion, up approximately 20% year over year. This growth was driven by sustained strong demand in AI-related cloud and data center infrastructure, power cooling, server rack solutions, and capital equipment.
Q:What are the expectations for the fourth quarter and the full fiscal year 2025?
A:For the fourth quarter, Jabil expects revenue of $7.8 billion, with operating income estimated between $428 million and $488 million GAAP, and $331 million to $411 million core. Core diluted earnings per share are expected to be between $2.64 and $3.40, and GAAP diluted earnings per share are between $1.79 and $2.37. Net interest expense is estimated to be approximately $65 million. For the full fiscal year 2025, Jabil is well on track to generate over $8 billion in free cash flow.
Q:What are the key factors contributing to the company's performance and ability to deliver for its customers?
A:The key factors contributing to the company's performance are the consistent execution of its global team in a complex environment, the dedication and commitment across the organization, and the ability to navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape.
Q:How is the company's manufacturing strategy contributing to its competitive advantage?
A:The company's strategy of migrating manufacturing to be local for local and region for region is contributing to its competitive advantage, especially in the current geopolitical environment. It allows the company to offer diverse, resilient, and localized manufacturing solutions, which are highly valuable to customers.
Q:What were the highlights of the company's third quarter results?
A:The company's third quarter results were very strong, with higher than expected growth in cloud and data center infrastructure, capital equipment, and connected living end markets. They also experienced growth in health care, automotive, digital commerce, and networking and communications sectors, while maintaining expectations in others. The revenue was $7.8 billion, with 5.4% core operating margins, and $2.55 in core delivered earnings per share, marking a 35% increase from the prior year.
Q:What is the projected growth for AI-related revenue this fiscal year?
A:The projected growth for AI-related revenue is a 50% plus increase year on year, with the revenue projected to reach approximately $8.5 billion for the fiscal year.
Q:What investment is planned for the new site in the Southeastern US?
A:The company plans to invest approximately $500 million over the next several years to expand its US footprint with the new site in the Southeastern US, to support cloud and AI data center infrastructure customers.
Q:How will the new site in the Southeastern US impact operations and revenue growth?
A:The new site is expected to be operational by mid-calendar year and will further enable design, architecture, and large-scale manufacturing capabilities for high complexity AI racks with increased power requirements and infrastructure fit-out liquid cooling. It is anticipated to diversify revenue growth in the AI hyperscale space without changing the annual CapEx spend outlook.
Q:What is the current status and future outlook for the digital commerce segment?
A:The digital commerce segment is driving innovation in retail and logistics, helping customers automate various processes. The team is focusing on labor dynamics and performance speed to facilitate structural investment in this area, with a long runway ahead as automation and robotics become central to everyday life.
Q:How is the company managing trends in regulated industries such as renewable energy and healthcare?
A:The company is monitoring the potential impact of US legislation on renewable energy markets and managing headwinds with discipline. They are focusing on accretive long-term margin markets. In healthcare, they remain optimistic about higher value segments like drug delivery devices, diagnostic equipment, and pharma solutions.
Q:What is the updated revenue guidance for fiscal year 25, and what factors are contributing to the company's financial outlook?
A:The updated revenue guidance for fiscal year 25 is approximately $20 billion, with core operating margins expected to be in the range of Ed Ed, and core delivered earnings per share of Ed dollars Ly cents for the year. The company expects to generate in excess of Ed ed billion dollars in adjusted free cash flow. The diversified demand profile of the end markets they serve, despite challenges in certain sectors like renewables and EdG, is aiding their results. The company remains focused on enhancing core margins, optimizing cash flow, and returning value to shareholders.
Q:What is the expected growth level for AI-related revenues in fiscal year ed and beyond?
A:The speaker indicates that AI-related revenues are expected to grow significantly, with the team achieving a revenue of $1.5 billion in the AI world, which is considered a substantial achievement. However, specific future growth expectations for the AI segment were not clearly defined in the transcript.
Q:What is the anticipated revenue growth and margin profile for different segments within intelligent infrastructure?
A:Within intelligent infrastructure, the revenue growth and margin profile are expected to vary by segment and end market. For capital equipment, the growth is projected to be accretive with a slightly higher margin on the wafer fab equipment side, while automatic testing has a lower margin than WFE. Cloud data center revenues are anticipated to grow explosively, benefiting X. Networking is expected to be slightly accretive, whereas communications and mainly EDG are more dilutive to margins.
Q:What is required for operating margins to reach 6% or above?
A:For operating margins to increase beyond 5.4%, the company needs to see better utilization of underutilized capacity, which is currently due to a geographical mismatch where AI growth is in the US and underutilized capacity is in countries outside the US. Additionally, leveraging growth in higher-margin business and further vertical integration are mentioned as factors for reaching operating margins above 6%.
Q:Is the strong sales in the third quarter due to pull-in buying because of tariff uncertainty, and is it factored into the guidance for the fourth quarter?
A:The speaker suggests that the strong sales in the third quarter were not due to pull-in buying because of tariff uncertainty as most of the revenue was in capital equipment and cloud data center infrastructure, which have minimal tariff impacts. There is no evidence of a pull-in effect at this stage, and the overall situation regarding tariffs is still fluid.
Q:What is the purpose of the planned US expansion, and what markets does it aim to serve?
A:The planned US expansion is not only to support current customers and programs but also to diversify the customer base by expanding the hyperscaler and Pol base. The investment is expected to grow the customer base positively and will include a range of offerings such as liquid cooling, power management, and other elements of the AI ecosystem.
Q:How is the company planning to manage growth and ensure capacity expansion at the right rate and focus on the right technologies?
A:The company is focused on expansion and has been in talks with customers and potential customers to address capacity versus new customers and new orders. They feel there is a path to filling out the site over the next few years, indicating that expansion continues in good shape.
Q:Which segments or end markets are potentially moving to the US or consolidating in other geographies in the long term, and how is the company responding to these shifts?
A:The company is looking at various segments for potential US relocation including healthcare, intelligent infrastructure, digital commerce, and automation. They are considering these based on suitability for the US market and the expansion of capabilities in the US.
Q:What is the company's strategy regarding capital allocation and future deployment of cash?
A:The company remains committed to returning value to shareholders. They plan to continue with their $1 billion share authorization program set to be completed in the fourth quarter and will likely announce a new authorization between July and September. The company's focus is on share buybacks as a major part of their strategy, with CapEx requirements reduced after the mobility divestiture, leading to strong free cash flow and a positive direction for capital allocation.
Q:Can you provide an update on the Cloud Data Center performance, product breadth, and customer diversity?
A:The Cloud Data Center experienced significant upside in the quarter and guide, primarily driven by product breadth such as server rack integration, which is heavily dependent on the design, architecture, and engineering capabilities that align hyperscaler requirements with successful yields. The segment is also growing in the intelligent infrastructure segment with automated testing cycles expanding and AI on WFE performing well, despite some sluggishness in the automotive and consumer sectors. The company is expecting growth in future segments such as liquid cooling and power/thermal management, which are still in the early stages.
Q:What is the status of the transceiver business and customer feedback on the upcoming 16 P product?
A:The transceiver business is seeing good growth, bolstered by the acquisition of Intel's photonics design and engineering capabilities. Demand for transceivers is on the rise, with a transition from copper to optical solutions being anticipated, particularly with the showcase of script technology at a recent event. Although the full impact of this technology is expected towards the end of the year or early next year, there is a definite trend of 200 ounces moving to scripts with potential continuation to script scripts. This indicates positive customer feedback and outlook for the new product.
Q:What are the projected growth and decline in revenue for Q4 in the regulated industries and connected living segments?
A:Revenue for Q4 in regulated industries and connected living is projected to be modestly down, while intelligent infrastructure is expected to grow rapidly.
Q:What factors are impacting the guidance for Q4 in regulated industries and consumer living?
A:The guidance for Q4 in regulated industries and consumer living is being impacted by being very prudent due to the evolution and renewables sectors, pruning of customers and programs in the consumer area, and being conservative overall.
Q:Why is there no turnaround yet in the automotive and renewable energy markets?
A:There is no turnaround yet in the automotive and renewable energy markets, which is impacting the guidance and revenue in these areas.
Q:What is the projected growth and focus within the healthcare and digital commerce sectors?
A:There is some level of growth projected in healthcare and digital commerce, with good progress being made. The healthcare space is of particular interest, with an 18-24 month time lag from bookings to factory production. Digital commerce is also an exciting area, encompassing warehouse automation, handheld devices, humanoid robots, and retail shelf pieces.
Q:How is the manufacturing capacity investment of 500 million dollars expected to be allocated between capital versus operating expenses?
A:The manufacturing capacity investment of 500 million dollars is a long-term commitment, not just for one year, and the exact allocation between capital and operating expenses is not emphasized. The investment is expected to be within the range of capital expenditures, and it will occur as needed, slowing down as business needs dictate.
Q:What is the revenue opportunity that underpins the incremental 500 million of investment over the next couple of years?
A:The revenue opportunity underpinning the incremental 500 million of investment is not quantified but is stated as a long-term investment with potential to support considerable revenue growth, particularly in intelligent infrastructure.
Q:What trends are seen in the networking business when excluding the 5G business?
A:5G is considered a bit dilutive to the business, and when excluding 5G, margins in the networking space are accretive. Projections for growth in the networking line item are provided, with ramping up in the second half of the year and potentially reaching $1 billion by the following year.
Q:Is the 500 million investment critical to meet the growth targets within intelligent infrastructure?
A:The 500 million investment is deemed necessary to meet the growth targets within intelligent infrastructure. The investment is expected to come online in the middle of the calendar year and contribute to significant growth potential, especially in the second half of the year.
Q:What is the biggest risk currently for Jabil?
A:The biggest risks for Jabil include performance fluctuations in end markets such as EV, renewable energy, and automotive. However, the company has been prudent in its guidance and outlook for these sectors.
Q:What is the priority for M&A versus buybacks in the upcoming year?
A:Jabil has a history of making tuck-in acquisitions that are mostly capability-driven. The company is currently focused on buybacks and does not foresee major changes in its capital allocation methodology. However, if a significantly accretive M&A opportunity arises, the company will consider it.

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