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哈里伯顿公司(HAL.US)2024年第四季度业绩电话会
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Johnson & Johnson reported robust Q4 2024 earnings with $22.5 billion in sales, a 6.7% increase. Full-year sales reached $88.8 billion, up 5.9%. The company emphasized strategic acquisitions, including Shockwave, b-wave, and Intracellular Therapies, to bolster its pipeline and drive long-term growth. Notable product launches and a diversified portfolio contributed to resilience despite biosimilar competition and market pressures. For 2025, the company projects 2.5%-3.5% operational sales growth and nearly 9% adjusted EPS growth, maintaining a strong R&D investment of over $17 billion.
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Johnson & Johnson's Q4 2024 Earnings Call Highlights and 2025 Outlook
Johnson & Johnson reviews Q4 and full year 2024 results, outlines 2025 financial guidance, and discusses key performance catalysts, strategic partnerships, and forward-looking statements' risks.
Johnson & Johnson's Strategic Growth and Innovation in Healthcare for 2024
Johnson & Johnson highlights its strategic investments in high-growth healthcare segments, such as oncology, immunology, and neuroscience, alongside disciplined business exits. The company emphasizes its unique position as a diversified healthcare leader, focusing on disease-centric strategies and innovative solutions, with recent acquisitions and RD&M investments aimed at sustained growth and innovation.
Johnson & Johnson's 2024 Sales Growth and Strategic Acquisitions
Johnson & Johnson achieved robust sales growth in 2024, driven by innovative medicines and strategic acquisitions. The company reported 7% operational sales growth, exceeding $30 billion in sales, and secured 27 major market approvals. Key achievements include the approval of Esperanto for treatment-resistant depression and advancements in medtech with acquisitions like Shockwave and b-wave. Looking ahead, Johnson & Johnson anticipates 3% operational sales growth in 2025, with a focus on pipeline launches and maintaining earnings per share growth despite market challenges.
Johnson & Johnson's Q4 and Full Year 2024 Financial Results: Sales and Earnings Overview
Johnson & Johnson reported Q4 2024 sales of $22.5 billion, a 6.7% increase, with global growth negatively affected by Stelara and Europe's loss of Solara exclusivity. Full year sales were $88.8 billion, growing 5.9%, but earnings per share decreased due to acquired IP RD expenses and vaccine impacts. Adjusted earnings showed a slight increase.
Q4 Sales Highlights: Innovative Medicine Growth, Key Brand Performances, and Market Expansion
Quarterly sales in innovative medicine reached $14.3 billion, with notable growth in oncology, immunology, and neuroscience. Darzalex, carvic V, and spva Do led with significant sales increases. Trum FIA and Opsumit also showed positive trends, despite challenges in biosimilar competition and inventory dynamics. The quarter marked Johnson & Johnson's first brand exceeding $3 billion in quarterly sales, reflecting strong market demand and strategic expansions.
Medtech Worldwide Sales Surge Amid Strategic Growth and Acquisitions
Medtech Worldwide saw a 7.6% sales increase, driven by commercial execution and new product introductions. Acquisitions and divestitures positively impacted growth, particularly in Cardiovascular and Orthopedics. Despite competitive pressures and market headwinds, strong regional performances and product launches offset challenges, highlighting strategic price actions and global procedure growth.
Analysis of Financial Performance and Strategic Investments in Q4 2024
The dialogue discusses key financial highlights for Q4 2024, emphasizing strategic investments in R&D, fluctuations in expenses, and tax implications, concluding with a review of adjusted income before tax by segment.
Johnson & Johnson's 2024 Financial Overview and 2025 Guidance Highlighting Strategic Investments and Talc Litigation Progress
Johnson & Johnson delivered strong 2024 results, exceeding guidance with advancements in pipeline, core therapeutic areas, and strategic partnerships. The company ended the year with $25 billion in cash, $37 billion in debt, and $20 billion in free cash flow. Investment in R&D reached $17 billion, marking consistent dividend increases. Guidance for 2025 includes a focus on cash flow generation and strategic capital deployment, excluding the impact of the planned acquisition of Intracellular Therapies. Progress on the talc litigation pre-packaged bankruptcy plan, with a confirmation hearing scheduled for February 18, underscores financial discipline and value creation.
2025 Financial Outlook: Growth Drivers, Currency Impact, and Earnings Projections
Outlines 2025 sales growth expectations, influenced by acquisitions, divestitures, and currency rates, highlighting portfolio strength, biosimilar competition, and Part D redesign impacts. Anticipates operational and adjusted operational earnings per share growth, with detailed P&L projections, including margin increases, net other income, and tax rate estimates.
Earnings Impact & Strategic Acquisition: Currency Adjusted EPS & ITP Penetration
Adjustments to earnings per share reflect currency impacts, with plans to acquire intracellular therapies to boost market penetration and R&D, anticipating sales growth acceleration but with a dilutive effect on future adjusted EPS.
2025 Strategic Outlook: Advancing Pipeline, Managing Biosimilar Competition, and Medtech Growth
Discusses 2025 plans focusing on innovative medicine approvals, Medtech product launches, and managing biosimilar competition, aiming for sustainable shareholder value.
Myeloma Franchise Growth: Bispecifics, CAR T, and Community Expansion
The discussion focuses on the myeloma franchise's growth strategy, emphasizing the roles of bispecifics and CAR T therapies, alongside expanding into community settings, and the anticipated pace of growth for Ve. as a key driver for 2025.
Record-Breaking Sales and Pipeline Advancements in Innovative Medicine
The company celebrates over $14 billion in sales, early achievement of $57 billion target, and strong growth in key brands. Highlights include Darzalex's $3 billion milestone, robust performance in multiple myeloma, and advancements in CAR T-cell therapy. The pipeline sees 27 approvals, 49 submissions, and high success rates, with innovative combinations and MRD negativity as a focus for future approvals.
Medical Device Business Acquisition Strategy Discussed
Discussion focuses on the medical device sector's acquisition strategy, highlighting recent pre-revenue acquisitions.
Strategic Vision for Integrating Laminar, V Wave, and Established Businesses
Focuses on forward-looking strategy to harmonize operations of laminar and V wave with more established businesses under a unified approach.
Johnson & Johnson's Strategic Focus on External Innovation and Diverse Acquisitions
Johnson & Johnson emphasizes external innovation, with a focus on smaller, high-value acquisitions that complement their portfolio. Larger deals like Shockwave and Intracellular are seen as outliers, reinforcing leadership in neuroscience and enhancing future revenue projections.
Significant MedTech Investments and Acquisitions Drive Business Growth and Innovation
The dialogue highlights substantial investments and acquisitions in medtech, emphasizing portfolio growth, FDA approvals, and innovations like the Shockwave IVL technology. It underscores the acceleration in business development activities, showcasing advancements in heart failure treatment and the expansion of product offerings, all contributing to enhanced patient outcomes and market leadership.
Johnson & Johnson's Vision for Kalita's Sales Growth and Portfolio Expansion
Johnson & Johnson expresses excitement over the acquisition of intracellular, highlighting Kalita's sales growth trajectory and the impact of upcoming approvals in major depressive disorder. The company reassures continued focus on its broad portfolio, emphasizing the unique mechanisms of each molecule for treating depression.
Revolutionizing Depression Treatment: Safer Alternatives and FDA Breakthrough Designation
A groundbreaking portfolio of depression treatments offers relief without common side effects, highlighted by spva do's FDA approval as a mono therapy for treatment-resistant depression, marking a significant advancement in mental health care.
Impact of Biosimilars on Tremfya's Market Share and Pricing Strategy
Discussion on how biosimilars might shift volume in favor of other brands like Tremfya, akin to Humira's effect on Skyrizi, and the potential for incremental price erosion to maintain market access post-2024.
Optimism for Tremfya in IBD Treatment: Differentiation and Patient Access
The dialogue highlights the potential of Tremfya in inflammatory bowel diseases (IBD), emphasizing its dual action on IL-23 and CD64, subcutaneous administration flexibility, and strong commercial coverage. The speaker expresses confidence in patient shifts towards advanced therapies, including Tremfya, and underscores the investment in ensuring patient access post-launch.
J&J's Medtech Market Growth Projections for 2025 and EP Business Outlook
Discussed expectations for Medtech market growth in 2025, J&J's relative market position, and projections for EP business and Barra pulse.
Navigating Short-Term Challenges for Long-Term Leadership in Electrophysiology
Despite a temporary pause in US procedures due to safety concerns and competitive pressures, the company reaffirms its commitment to patient safety, innovation, and market leadership in electrophysiology, with strategic expansions into PFA and left atrial appendage closure.
Operational Efficiency and Strategic Investments Driving Margin Expansion and Future Growth
The dialogue highlights the company's strategic focus on operational efficiency and targeted investments in high-priority areas, leading to margin improvements and positioning for future growth despite market challenges. It discusses past restructuring efforts, technology investments, and prioritized spending on key therapeutic areas, setting expectations for continued margin expansion and sales growth in coming years.
Coordinating Live Q&A Sessions with Multiple Participants
A dialogue focused on managing live question-and-answer sessions, addressing technical issues like muted phones and ensuring smooth communication among participants.
MedTech Strategy: Balancing Organic Growth and Acquisitions Amidst Market Challenges
The dialogue discusses MedTech's strategy focusing on organic investments and inorganic contributions, highlighting strong performances in cardiovascular and orthopedic sectors. It addresses short-term headwinds, particularly in U.S. EP and China, and emphasizes upcoming growth drivers from new products and acquisitions. Revenue recognition changes and inventory builds are noted as positive factors for future performance.
Johnson & Johnson's Q4 Earnings Call Concludes with Positive Outlook for Future Growth
The earnings call wrapped up with assurance of no impact from accounting reversals on varials, reinforcing confidence in future performance. The speaker thanked participants, emphasized readiness for a strong year ahead, and encouraged further engagement with the investor relations team for any lingering queries.
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Q:What are the key topics covered in the Johnson & Johnson's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings review?
A:The key topics covered include business results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024, the company's financial outlook for 2025, and a review of fourth quarter sales and P&L results, as well as full year 2024 results for the Enterprise. Additionally, the call discusses the company's cash position, capital allocation priorities, and guidance for 2025.
Q:How much did Johnson & Johnson invest in research and development (R&D) in the last year?
A:Johnson & Johnson invested approximately $50 billion in research and development (R&D) in the last year, inclusive of the recently announced acquisition agreement with Intracellular Therapies.
Q:What are some of the key achievements in Johnson & Johnson's innovative medicine segment?
A:Key achievements in Johnson & Johnson's innovative medicine segment include a third consecutive quarter of sales exceeding $14 billion with 10 key brands growing double-digit across the full year, strong growth in oncology, neuroscience, and pulmonary hypertension, and a number of FDA approvals, positive readouts, and new product launches.
Q:What notable acquisitions and investments did Johnson & Johnson make in 2024?
A:Notable acquisitions and investments in 2024 include the acquisitions of shockwave and B-Wave in medtech, Ambrax ProteoLogics in innovative medicine, and the M&A investment in M26 biospecific antibodies. The company also announced plans to acquire Intracellular Therapies, a biopharmaceutical company focused on central nervous system disorders.
Q:What is the projected operational sales growth and adjusted operational earnings per share growth for Johnson & Johnson in 2025?
A:For 2025, Johnson & Johnson expects to deliver operational sales growth of 3%, and a nearly 9% growth in adjusted operational earnings per share, despite headwinds associated with US biosimilar entries, the impact of the party redesign, and continued macroeconomic pressures in China.
Q:What impact did currency translation have on Johnson & Johnson's sales results starting from Q4 2024?
A:Starting with Q4 2024, currency translation had a negative impact on Johnson & Johnson's sales results, with a 6.7% increase in sales but a 2.5% decrease outside of the US. Worldwide growth was impacted by changes in currency exchange rates, with growth in Europe being negatively affected due to the loss of exclusivity of Solara and the COVID-19 vaccine.
Q:What was the growth rate of innovative medicine's worldwide sales excluding the Covid-19 vaccine?
A:Innovative medicine's worldwide sales, excluding the Covid-19 vaccine, increased by 6.5%.
Q:What were the notable brand performances in oncology?
A:Darz Alex showed growth of 23.5% with share gains across all lines of therapy, Carvic V achieved sales of $334 million with over 100% growth, and Tecentriq sales were $146 million with growth of 18%.
Q:What was the impact of stelara on the company's sales growth?
A:Stelara declined by 13.6% due to the impact of current and anticipated biosimilar competition.
Q:How did the Medtech segment perform in terms of sales?
A:Medtech worldwide sales increased by 7.6% in both the US and outside of the US, with acquisitions and divestitures having a net positive impact of 300 basis points on worldwide growth.
Q:What was the adjusted income before tax for the enterprise as a percentage of sales?
A:The adjusted income before tax for the enterprise as a percentage of sales decreased from 29.2% to 24.1%.
Q:What are the company's strategic priorities and recent achievements?
A:Strategic priorities include investment in innovation, forging strategic partnerships, and focusing on improving margins. Recent achievements include advancements in the pipeline, key milestones in core therapeutic areas, and resolving the talc litigation through a pre-packaged bankruptcy plan.
Q:How much cash and marketable securities does the company have, and what is the net debt position?
A:The company ended 2024 with approximately $25 billion of cash and marketable securities and approximately $37 billion of debt, resulting in a net debt position of approximately $12 billion.
Q:What is the anticipated range for operational sales growth in 2025?
A:The anticipated range for operational sales growth in 2025 is between 2.5% and 3.5%, with a midpoint of $91.3 billion or 3.0%.
Q:What are the driving factors for sales growth in innovative medicines and medical devices?
A:Innovative medicine sales growth is expected to be driven by proven assets such as Darj le Alita, spraoi, recently launched products like carvic T, Teg Valley, and talvez new launches in IBD and lung cancer. Medtech sales growth will be propelled by recent acquisitions such as shockwave and aomedia, and the uptake of recently launched products such as Vara, pulse tecs odyssey, acuvue oasis Max, and the valas portfolio of enabling technology.
Q:What negative factors are expected to impact sales and how is the company addressing them?
A:Negative impacts on sales include expanded biosimilar competition, a $200 billion negative impact from Part D redesign, and approximately $200 billion from a weaker euro compared to the US dollar. The company is addressing these factors by utilizing the recent euro spot rate to estimate an unfavorable foreign currency impact on sales and by continuing to expect adjusted pretax operating margins to increase by approximately 300 basis points.
Q:What are the expected financial outcomes for the year and how do they compare to the consensus?
A:The company expects script sales at the midpoint to be in the range of $10.75 to $10.95. The reported adjusted earnings per share for the year estimates a full year negative impact of 20 cents due to currency movements, resulting in an expected adjusted earnings per share of $10.60 at the midpoint. This is considered considerably stronger than consensus, as only about half the analysts incorporated the impact of foreign currency into their models.
Q:What are the anticipated effects of the planned acquisition of intracellular therapies?
A:The planned acquisition of intracellular therapies, mainly financed with debt, is not expected to generate material near-term cost synergies. Instead, the focus is on accelerating market penetration, exploring new geographies, and potentially expanding research and development into new indications. This acquisition is expected to have a dilutive impact on adjusted EPS of approximately 30 cents to 35 cents in 2025.
Q:How is the company preparing for the effects of biosimilar competition and what are the expected growth patterns throughout the year?
A:The company is preparing for the effects of biosimilar competition by anticipating an acceleration throughout the year, with a steeper erosion curve for humira due to increasing biosimilar entrants. Part D redesign is also expected to have a significant impact. In Medtech, the first half of the year faces tougher year-over-year comparisons, but the company anticipates an acceleration of sales for newly launched products as the year progresses.
Q:What important developments are anticipated in the multiple myeloma franchise?
A:In the multiple myeloma franchise, Darzalex sales reached $3.1 billion and continued to build market share across frontline settings and triple and quad regimens. Kavita had a robust performance, nearing $1 billion for the year. The company is working on multiple additional types of combinations for this franchise. Sales of both agents, Darzalex and Kavita, are reported to be strong, and there is a focus on expanding utilization into the academic and community settings for continued growth.
Q:What notable achievements in the pipeline and research did the speaker highlight?
A:The speaker highlighted several key achievements: 27 approvals, 49 submissions, 15 out of 17 positive phase threes, a 9 out of 10 success rate for new molecule approvals, 10 new molecules added to the pipeline from internal research, a strong performance in business development, and the FDA declaring minimal residual disease negativity (MRD) as a surrogate endpoint for accelerated approvals.
Q:What recent milestones have been reached with the company's car T therapy?
A:The company has completed the infusion of 5000 patients with car T therapy across clinical and commercial settings, marking the most successful cell therapy launch in the industry.
Q:What is the strategy behind Johnson & Johnson's acquisition of medical device companies?
A:Johnson & Johnson's acquisition strategy has been to focus on both pre-revenue companies and more established businesses, with a particular emphasis on smaller opportunities like those mentioned. They aim to create value through smaller acquisitions rather than larger ones, exemplified by their acquisitions of Lumen and V-Wave. However, they also pursue significant acquisitions like the one for Intracel, which are considered outliers. They underline the success of these smaller acquisitions and their alignment with their innovative and metabolic portfolio.
Q:What major developments and acquisitions have been made in the medical device sector?
A:The company has closed the acquisition of Intracel in May of the previous year, which delivered $400 million in growth and is a pioneer in IVL technology. They have also seen a significant investment in Ablative Sciences, with positive results in theShockwave ABP study demonstrating a survival benefit. Additionally, they received FDA approval for Impella in the pediatric community and plan to submit ECP to the FDA in the first half of the year.
Q:How does Johnson & Johnson view the addition of intracellular's assets to their portfolio?
A:Johnson & Johnson views the addition of intracellular's assets as a significant near-term and long-term growth catalyst. They anticipate significant contributions from Cap Lita, which is expected to be a $5 billion plus asset, and are excited about the potential of 1284 in Alzheimer's, psychosis, and general anxiety disorder. The company also sees a diverse portfolio of mechanisms that can be applied to different subpopulations of depression.
Q:What is the global impact of chronic depression and how do Johnson & Johnson's treatments aim to address it?
A:Chronic depression affects 260 million people worldwide and is the leading cause of disability, with more than 30% not finding relief from current medications. Johnson & Johnson's treatments aim to address this through a precision neuroscience strategy with molecules that have unique mechanisms to play in different subpopulations of depression, without the side effects common to many current medicines.
Q:What are the expectations regarding the impact of TMF A on volume and pricing?
A:The speaker indicates that there are expectations for TMF A to potentially experience volume shifts favoring other brands, similar to what occurred with skyrizi. However, they do not provide specific predictions on price erosion relative to 2024 or discuss the impact on volume and price in detail, except to note that they are excited about the progress with Trem FAA in psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and inflammatory bowel diseases, and see it as a candidate for patient switches due to its superiority.
Q:What is the anticipated growth for Trefilova in IBD and what is its differentiation in the market?
A:The anticipated growth for Trefilova in Inflammatory Bowel Diseases (IBD) is based on several factors. Firstly, it is the only dual acting Il 23 agent that targets both Il 23 as well as CD 64, which the company believes will set a new bar in efficacy. The market is seeing a need for more effective treatments, with many patients ready for a switch to better therapies. Additionally, Trefilova offers unrivaled flexibility with its sub Q induction and maintenance dosing, as well as the potential for initial sub Q induction in Crohn's disease, which is currently launching well.
Q:What was the reason for the pause in all US Barrett's cases, and what is the company's view on patient safety?
A:The reason for the pause in all US Barrett's cases is a temporary pause announced due to an investigation into the root cause of Ryan neurovascular events. The company views patient safety as an absolute priority and is collaborating with the FDA on this matter. At this time, there is no impact expected to our pulse cases outside of the US, where the technology has been successful. The company is reinforcing its commitment to patient safety and will provide further updates when additional information becomes available.
Q:How does the company view the short-term headwinds and long-term prospects in the electrophysiology market?
A:The company acknowledges facing short-term headwinds, particularly in the US, but is confident in its ability to retain global market leadership over the long term. It has a strong market position in electrophysiology, with a $5 billion market leadership and 14% growth in 2024, driven by commercial execution and new product introductions. Despite competitive pressures, the company has a robust portfolio, including market leading positions in certain areas like cargo systems and is expanding its presence in the PFA market. The company is also looking to enter the left atrial appendage closure market through an acquisition. While facing challenges in the short term, the company remains confident in its long-term prospects.
Q:What factors enabled the 150 basis point improvement in operating margins, and are operating expenses expected to be down this year?
A:The 150 basis point improvement in operating margins is attributed to a focus on corporate infrastructure and investments in innovative medicine and medtech, which the company has been doing for a few years. As a result of separating the consumer health business, the company was able to streamline investments and operationalize efficiencies. Although the company faces significant revenue headwinds, especially from lizalopex, it is maintaining operational growth on the top line and is confident that as sales growth reaccelerates, operational margins will improve. The company is not providing guidance by sector, but it is confident that continued growth will be driven by a strong portfolio of new products.
Q:How does the company expect the medtech strategy to perform in the long term, especially with respect to organic investments and inorganic contributions?
A:The company is confident in its long-term prospects, especially as it relates to its medtech strategy. It is seeing an acceleration in the back half of the year, influenced by several factors such as positive changes in revenue recognition, inventory builds outside of the US in electrophysiology, and reduced selling days compared to the prior year. The company's end markets are expected to grow between Ed and script on a weighted average basis between Ly and Ly, and the company expects to deliver an operational Cager in the upper end of the range over that period. It anticipates growth across its core business areas, including cardiovascular, orthopedics, and vision, while acknowledging short-term challenges.
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