甲骨文公司(ORCL.US)2025财年第二季度业绩电话会
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Oracle shared its excellent performance in the second quarter of fiscal year 2025 during a conference call, highlighting the company's continued investment and leading position in the fields of cloud computing and AI. Oracle not only saw tremendous interest and demand growth in backend systems, but also in frontend systems, using automation, simplifying business processes, and AI technology to improve customer service quality and operational efficiency. CTO Larry Ellison and CEO Safra Catz specifically mentioned the growth of cloud services and licensing support as the largest sources of revenue, as well as steady increases in revenue and operating profits. Additionally, Oracle expects revenue growth to be driven by a large number of new capacities coming online in the future, while operating profit margins continue to improve, especially in cloud infrastructure business. Faced with competition, Oracle has maintained strong profitability through improved operational efficiency and technological innovation. The conference also covered topics such as stock buybacks, dividends, and future performance guidance.
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Oracle Reports Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 EarningsOracle Corporation announced strong second quarter fiscal year 2025 results, with total revenue at the high end of guidance and a significant increase in cloud revenue. The cloud services and license support segment now comprises seventy-seven percent of total revenue and is the fastest-growing part of the business. The company expects cloud revenue to reach $25 billion for the fiscal year. Oracle attributes its success to the superior performance and cost-effectiveness of its cloud services, rapid growth in AI demand, and the ongoing migration of on-premise databases to the cloud. Gross profit and operating income also showed growth, while the company maintained expense discipline. Oracle highlighted its strategic advantage with a chen to architecture, enabling scalable and automated cloud regions. The company's guidance remains positive, expecting continued revenue growth and strategic acquisitions. Oracle also announced plans for share repurchases, dividends, and prudent use of debt to return value to shareholders.
Oracle Discusses Financial Projections and AI AdvancementsOracle shared expectations for a three cent negative effect on earnings per share (EPS) due to currency fluctuations in the third quarter, noting a shift in the U.S. dollar's strength. The company also discussed its growth projections, including total revenue growth from nine to eleven percent in constant currency, and specific expectations for cloud and non-GAAP revenue. Additionally, Oracle highlighted its investments in AI, including advancements in training large-scale AI models and the development of AI agents to enhance various applications and services. The company also mentioned the launch of the largest and fastest AI supercomputer and the capabilities of its new AI version of the database, aimed at facilitating the use of existing data for AI model training and application. Oracle forecasted significant growth in its cloud business, aiming to surpass $25 billion for the fiscal year.
Oracle's Multi-Cloud Strategy and Database Migration ProgressOracle is experiencing significant growth in its cloud database services, with a particular focus on Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI). The company has observed a rapid increase in revenue from cloud database services, mainly driven by OCI, and anticipates further expansion as more regions are opened. Oracle's multi-cloud approach caters to customers' needs for dedicated regions, addressing regulatory and sovereignty concerns. The company projects that its database services, including those on other major clouds like AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, will contribute to a multi-billion dollar business in the future. Additionally, Oracle's acquisitions in cloud database services are expected to enhance its market position.
Oracle accelerates the development of AI infrastructure and GPU superclusters.Oracle has provided explanations for the expansion of GPU superclusters and the optimization of AI infrastructure, emphasizing the importance of quickly moving large amounts of data into GPU clusters to avoid efficiency losses. Additionally, Oracle has invested in network technology in its data centers to ensure efficient data transmission, supporting the acceleration of AI training. At the same time, Oracle has also showcased its strong growth in enterprise services, particularly in backend systems, noting the increasing demand from enterprises to improve efficiency and analyze data using AI technology. Oracle's cloud services department, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, is also expected to see an increase in available capacity and the signing of large contracts, which is anticipated to drive revenue growth.
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Q：What are the key financial results for Oracle's second quarter fiscal year 2025?
A：For Oracle's second quarter fiscal year 2025, key financial results include total revenue at the high end of guidance, with an actual earnings per share (EPS) a cent above the high end. The quarter ended with total revenue of $5.9 billion from cloud services and license support, up 24% year over year. The remaining performance obligation (RPO) grew by 50% to $97 billion. Additionally, cloud revenue is expected to reach $25 billion this fiscal year.
Q：What is the primary driver of revenue growth for Oracle?
A：The primary driver of revenue growth for Oracle is its cloud services and license support, which now represents 77% of total revenue and is the company's fastest-growing line item.
Q：Why is Oracle's cloud revenue expected to reach $25 billion this fiscal year?
A：Oracle's cloud revenue is expected to reach $25 billion this fiscal year due to several factors: the speed and cost-effectiveness of Oracle's cloud compared to competitors, the preference for Oracle's cloud for AI workloads and non-gpu cloud infrastructure services, the ability to deploy in various sizes providing customers with flexibility, multi-cloud agreements, rapid growth in strategic staff applications, and the addition of industry-based cloud applications contributing to revenue growth.
Q：What is the projected growth in cloud revenue for Oracle and what factors are contributing to it?
A：The projected growth in cloud revenue for Oracle is expected to accelerate further in the coming quarters. Factors contributing to this growth include the anticipated upsurge in demand for AI and the continuous scaling up of cloud services. Specifically, growth in the AI segment of the infrastructure business is anticipated to be extraordinary, with substantial increases in revenue reported for AI-related services and products.
Q：What recent strategic moves have contributed to Oracle's cloud momentum?
A：Recent strategic moves contributing to Oracle's cloud momentum include the ability to deploy the cloud in many sizes for flexibility, multi-cloud agreements with Microsoft, Google, and AWS for database migration, and the rapid growth of strategic staff applications and industry-based cloud applications that immediately contribute to revenue growth.
Q：What was the impact of currency movements on Oracle's financial results?
A：Currency movements impacted Oracle's financial results with a one percent currency benefit for total revenue and a two to three cent benefit for EPS. However, the strengthening of the dollar in the quarter led to the erosion of these benefits, resulting in total revenue and EPS that were essentially unaffected by currency movements.
Q：How is Oracle's cloud infrastructure performing and what is its contribution to revenue?
A：Oracle's cloud infrastructure is performing exceptionally well, with a 52% increase in cloud infrastructure revenue to $3.5 billion, and an even greater increase of 55% when excluding legacy hosting infrastructure. The strategic cloud applications and autonomous database infrastructure subscription revenues, which include license support, contributed to the robust performance, amounting to $6 billion, an increase of 17%.
Q：What are the revenue growth figures for Oracle's cloud services and license support?
A：For the quarter, Oracle's cloud services and license support grew with total revenue of $5.9 billion, an increase of 24% from the previous year. The cloud services and license support segment grew 9% in gross profit dollars, indicating a solid financial performance for the cloud business as it continues to scale.
Q：What is the growth rate and expected revenue contribution of Oracle's cloud database services?
A：The growth rate and expected revenue contribution of Oracle's cloud database services are significant, with a 28% increase in cloud database services to $2.2 billion in annualized revenue. The company anticipates that as on-premise databases migrate to the cloud on Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) either directly or through partnerships, cloud database revenues will be a key component of the third leg of revenue growth, alongside OCI and strategic staff applications.
Q：How is Oracle's gross profit and operating income trending?
A：Oracle's gross profit dollars from cloud services and license support grew by 9% in the second quarter. The company maintained expense discipline, resulting in operating income growth of 10% and an operating margin of 43% compared to 42.6% in the prior year. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 20.1%, and the non-GAAP earnings per share (EPS) was $0.47, reflecting an increase of 10% in US dollars and 10% in constant currency.
Q：What are the expectations for fiscal year 2025 in terms of revenue growth?
A：The speaker expects fiscal year 2025 revenue to be double what it was in fiscal year 2024.
Q：What is the current status of Oracle's remaining performance obligation (RPO)?
A：The remaining performance obligation (RPO) is now at $97.3 billion, up fifty percent in constant currency, reflecting a growing trend of customers preferring larger and longer contracts.
Q：What percentage of the total RPO is expected to be recognized as revenue in the next twelve months?
A：Approximately thirty-nine percent of the total RPO is expected to be recognized as revenue over the next twelve months.
Q：How many cloud regions are live and how does this reflect on Oracle's capacity?
A：Oracle has approximately ninety-eight cloud regions live, reflecting its strategic advantage and the capacity to scale up quickly with customer demands.
Q：What is Oracle's strategy regarding data centers and cloud regions?
A：Oracle's data centers are highly automated and identical in features and function, varying only in scale, providing sizing flexibility and deployment optionality as strategic advantages.
Q：What is Oracle's commitment to returning value to shareholders?
A：Oracle is committed to returning value to shareholders through technical innovation, acquisitions, stock repurchases, prudent use of debt, and a dividend.
Q：What are the updated revenue growth expectations for Q3 and the full fiscal year 2024?
A：Q3 total revenue is expected to grow from nine to eleven percent in constant currency and seven to nine percent in U.S. dollars. Full fiscal year 2024 total revenue is expected to grow double digits, with full year total cloud infrastructure growing faster than the fifty percent reported in the prior year.
Q：What is the expected impact of currency fluctuations on Oracle's Q3 results?
A：Currency fluctuations are expected to have a three cent negative effect on EPS and a two percent negative effect on revenue for Q3, assuming the same exchange rates as in Q2.
Q：What are the expected growth rates for total cloud revenue and NONGAP revenue in Q3?
A：The total cloud revenue is expected to grow from twenty-five to twenty-seven percent in constant currency and from twenty-three to twenty-five percent in U.S. dollars. NONGAP revenue is expected to grow between seven to nine percent in constant currency and between a dollar fifty and a dollar fifty-four.
Q：What factors negatively impact the Q3 EPS guidance?
A：Q3 EPS guidance is negatively impacted by an investment loss of five cents due to an investment in a company in which Oracle is a partial owner, and a base tax rate of nineteen percent.
Q：How does Oracle plan to use AI to benefit its customers?
A：Oracle plans to use AI to automate drug design, image and genomic analysis for cancer diagnostics, updates to electronic health records, satellite image analysis for agricultural output, fraud detection, biometric logins, and real-time weapons detection in schools. The new AI version of Oracle's database, Oracle 23, helps customers build their own AI agents and use their own data.
Q：What are the prospects for future growth in Oracle's cloud services?
A：The prospects for future growth in Oracle's cloud services include a projected total revenue of more than $25 billion for this fiscal year and an expectation of continued growth beyond.
Q：What advantage does the speaker highlight due to their services being in all regions?
A：The advantage highlighted is that having all services in all regions allows for easy automation, making it possible to run not just dozens but hundreds or even theoretically thousands of regions.
Q：What does the speaker indicate about the capabilities regarding automation and data centers?
A：The speaker indicates that their standardization and automation across data centers, which are all identical, provide a huge advantage in competing in the market place.
Q：How does the speaker describe the ability to scale in contrast to competitors?
A：The speaker describes the ability to scale with smaller footprints and to consume and expand as customers need it, allowing for a match between capital expenditure and revenue without having to spend with empty centers.
Q：What is the speaker's view on the migration of databases to the cloud?
A：The speaker views the migration of databases to the cloud as being in its infancy and expects it to grow significantly, especially with customers wanting to use dedicated cloud regions for regulatory or sovereignty reasons.
Q：What future revenue contribution does the speaker anticipate from the migration of databases to the cloud?
A：The speaker anticipates that the cloud database services will grow to be a multibillion-dollar business in the first year, starting from having all three in the world, with a significant contribution from dedicated regions set up by customers.
Q：What is the growth forecast for NVIDIA's revenue in the coming year?
A：NVIDIA is expected to grow between four percent to six percent and the stock price is expected to be between $1.47 and $1.51 in US dollars.
Q：What are the two elements that contribute to speeding up model training according to the speaker?
A：The two elements that contribute to speeding up model training are: 1) Building larger and faster GPU clusters, and 2) Building networks that can rapidly move large volumes of data into those GPU clusters.
Q：How does the speaker differentiate Oracle's data centers in terms of AI training infrastructure?
A：Oracle differentiates itself in its data centers by investing heavily in building networks, including switch software and network hardware to move data more quickly, to maintain an advantage in supporting the increasing demands of larger and faster GPU clusters.
Q：What is the growth rate of the SaaS part of the business?
A：The SaaS part of the business is experiencing solid growth, outgrowing its peers and showing a late-stage cycle resilience in growth rates.
Q：What are companies' attitudes towards their back office systems?
A：Many companies are under pressure to enhance efficiency in their back office systems due to fierce competition across industries.
Q：What are the benefits that company executives see in using the company's services?
A：Company executives see the benefit of automating and simplifying their businesses to spend less on operations and invest in differentiating aspects.
Q：What kind of interest is there in using the company's AI agents?
A：There is significant interest in using the company's AI agents to help companies operate more efficiently and serve customers better.
Q：How does the company intend to meet the growing demand for its services?
A：The company anticipates that a lot of new capacity will come online in the second half of the year, which will translate into revenues and help meet the growing demand.
Q：What is the expected impact of new contracts on revenue recognition?
A：The company expects both an increase in capacity for customers and to sign large contracts, which will result in a spike in RPO numbers and potentially burn down some revenue recognition (RPO), but simultaneously expects the RPO numbers to go up.
Q：How have the gross margins for the Cloud Infrastructure (CI) segment been performing?
A：The gross margin percentage for the Cloud Infrastructure segment continues to improve, contrary to the expectations of many who thought it would not be as profitable.
Q：What factors contribute to the improving gross margins in the CI business?
A：The improvement in gross margins in the CI business is attributed to running the cloud in a cost-effective manner, automating operations, optimizing software capabilities, and the inherent advantages of being a software company.
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