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Autoliv, Inc. (ALV) Q3 2022 Earnings Call

2022-10-21 23:03

Autoliv, Inc. (NYSE:ALV) Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call October 21, 2022 8:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Anders Trapp - VP, Investor Relations

Mikael Bratt - President and CEO

Fredrik Westin - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Mattias Holmberg - DNB

Colin Langan - Wells Fargo

Chris McNally - Evercore

Joseph Spak - RBC Capital Markets

Agnieszka Vilela - Nordea

Philipp Konig - Goldman Sachs

Emmanuel Rosner - Deutsche Bank

Rod Lache - Wolfe Research

Hampus Engellau - Handelsbanken

Vijay Rakesh - Mizuho Securities

Operator

Welcome to the Q3 2022 Autoliv, Inc. Earnings Group Conference Call. Throughout the call, all participants will be in listen-only mode. And afterwards, there will be a question-and-answer session.

Today, I am pleased to present Anders Trapp, VP of Investor Relations; Mikael Bratt, CEO; and Fredrik Westin, Group CFO.

I’ll now hand the floor to our speakers’. Please begin your meeting.

Anders Trapp

Thank you, Mark. Welcome everyone to our third quarter 2022 earnings call. On this call, we have our President and CEO, Mikael Bratt; and our Chief Financial Officer, Fredrik Westin; and I am Anders Trapp, VP, IR.

During today's earnings call Mikael and Fredrik will among other things provide an overview of the strong sales and margin recovery in the third quarter, given update on the price negotiations, outline the expected sequential margin improvement in Q4, as well as provide an update on our general business and market conditions. We will then remain available to respond to your questions and as usual, the slides are available on autoliv.com.

Turning to the next slide. We have the Safe Harbor Statement, which is an integrated part of this presentation and includes the Q&A that follows. During this presentation, we will reference some non-U.S. GAAP measures. The reconciliation of historical U.S. GAAP to non-U.S. GAAP measures are disclosed in our quarterly press release available at aitoliv.com and in the 10-Q that will be filed with the SEC.

Lastly, I should mention that this call is intended to conclude at 03:00 PM Central European Time. So, please follow a limit of two questions per person.

I now hand over to our CEO, Mikael Bratt.

Mikael Bratt

Thank you, Anders. Looking on the next slide, I'd like to recognize the entire team for delivering a strong quarter, which I believe reflects our strong execution culture. As the market leader, we are building resilience and strength in the turbulent times. Our actions initiated earlier in the year are creating both short-term and long-term improvements and enable us to build an even more competitive position, despite the challenging micro environment.

We continued to negotiate higher prices to compensate for inflationary pressure. We also achieved another strong outperformance versus LVP, despite a negative regional mix. Our sales in the quarter reached over $2.3 billion, the highest so far for the third quarter for our current business structure. This is despite recessionary light-vehicle sales volumes in Europe and 8% currency headwind. We also achieved a strong profit recovery, increasing adjusted operating margin to 7.5%.

Our strong performance in the third quarter is especially encouraging considering the market conditions continued to be challenging with almost 2 percentage points adverse currency effects, as well as significant inflationary pressure and high customer call off volatility. We generated a strong operating cash flow. The leverage ratio improved to 1.6 times. In the quarter, we paid $0.64 per share in dividends and repurchased and canceled 260,000 shares.

Our Q3 performance enables us to update our full-year indication for the adjusted operating margin to the upper-end of the indication. We expect continued sequential margin improvement in Q4 through price increases, cost reduction activities, as well as the higher LVP and engineering income. The Q3 performance and expected Q4 development strengthens our confidence in our mid-term targets. In addition, we expect that our balance sheet and positive cash flow trend will allow for higher shareholder returns.

Looking now on an update of the inflation compensation negotiations on the next slide. To support a sustainable business model in an inflationary environment, we continue to work closely with customers to secure price increases to compensate for inflation, volatile, light-vehicle production and supply chain disruptions. We have reached agreements in more than 90% of the raw material-related price adjustment discussions that we initiated earlier. Price adjustment discussions with our customers for cost increases related to labor, logistics and utilities are progressing. We are also implementing greater pricing flexibility into new and running contracts with our customers to account for changing raw material costs.

Now about half of our contracts contain raw material losses. This is an increase from around 20% before we started the negotiations. The Clauses should provide more stable and predictable earnings going forward as changes in costs should be more aligned with changes in price.

Looking now on our cost control measures on the next slide. We continue with strict cost control measures, controlled hiring and footprint effectiveness. As a result of these activities, headcount increased only by 9% year-over-year, whereas sales grow organically by 32% during the same period. The increase also reflects preparations for the expected strong sales growth in the fourth quarter. Also, we continue to execute on our capital efficiency program to improve trade working capital. Considering the uncertainty of the market development, keeping a high degree of flexibility and agility is essential and allows us to be an even stronger company long-term.

Looking now on the financial overview on the next slide. Our consolidated net sales of $2.3 billion was 25% higher than in Q3 2021. Adjusted operating income excluding cost for capacity alignments increased from $103 million to $173 million. The adjusted operating margin was 7.5% in the quarter, around 2 percentage points higher than last year. The higher operating margin was mainly a result of higher prices, operational leverage on higher volumes, as well as cost saving activities. Operating cash flow was $232 million, which was $43 million higher than the same period last year, mainly due to improved working capital and higher net income.

Looking now on our sales growth more in detail on the next slide. Although currency translation effects had a negative impact of 8%. The third quarter consolidated net sales increased by more than $450 million to $2.3 billion. Retractive pricing contributed with approximately $13 million and price, volume mix contributed with almost $600 million in the quarter. As a result, the organic sales grew by more than 32% in the third quarter, compared to last year. Looking on the regional sales split. Asia accounted for 42% of sales in quarter, North America for 34%, and Europe for 24%.

Looking to our organic sales growth per region on the next slide. Our organic sales in the quarter came in as we expected in the beginning of the quarter, but with a different region mix with higher sales in China and Europe offsetting lower-than-expected sales in Japan and Americas. According to S&P Global, light-vehicle production increased by 29% year-over-year in the quarter, this was almost 7 percentage points better-than-expected at the beginning of the quarter. All of the higher-than-expected volumes came in China and rest of Asia, while volumes in higher content per vehicle markets North America, Europe and Japan were lower-than-expected.

Despite the negative regional light-vehicle production mix, we outperformed global light-vehicle production by around 4 percentage points. Based on the latest light-vehicle production numbers, we outperformed in Europe by 11 percentage points, in Americas by 7 percentage points and in Japan by 6 percentage points. Sales in China outperformed light-vehicle production, despite a negative mix with manufacturers of low-end vehicles benefiting from more than -- from the latest tax incentives on EVs and cars with engine displacement of up to two liters. Supported by recent launches and a positive regional mix, as well as further price increases, we see sales outperforming light-vehicle production even more in Q4.

On the next slide, we see some key model launches from the third quarter. In the quarter, we had a high number of launches especially in Europe and China. The models shown on this slide have an Autoliv content per vehicle from approximately $95 to more than $400. The long-term trend to higher CPV is supported by the introduction of front center airbags on five of these vehicles.

I will now hand it over to our CFO, Fredrik Westin, who will talk about the financials on the next slide.

Fredrik Westin

Thank you, Mikael. This slide highlights our key figures for the third quarter of 2022, compared to the third quarter of 2021. Our net sales were $2.3 billion, this was 25% higher than Q3 ’21 and 11% higher than Q2 this year.

Gross profit increased by 28% to $383 million, while the gross margin increased to 16.7%. The gross margin increase was primarily driven by higher prices, partly offset by cost inflation, currencies, and the volatile light-vehicle production. In the quarter, we made $2 million in provisions for capacity alignment activities. The adjusted operating income increased from $103 million to $173 million, and the adjusted operating margin increased from 5.6% to 7.5%. The operating cash flow was $232 million, and I will provide further comments on our cash flow later in the presentation.

Earnings per share diluted increased by $0.53, where the main driver was $0.59 from higher adjusted operating income, partly mitigated by $0.06 from financial items and non-operating items. Our adjusted return on capital employed increased to 18% and the adjusted return on equity to 17%, up from 11% and 10% respectively. We paid a dividend of $0.64 per share in the quarter, same as in the previous quarter, and repurchased around 260,000 shares for $20 million under our stock repurchase program.

Looking now on the adjusted operating income bridge on the next slide. In the third quarter of 2022, our adjusted operating income of $173 million was $70 million higher than the same quarter last year. The impact of raw material price changes was a negative $96 million in the quarter year-on-year. FX impacted the operating profit negatively by $41 million or almost 2 percentage points. This was a result of translation effects due to the stronger U.S. dollar and transaction effects mainly relating to the strong U.S. dollar versus the Japanese yen, Korean won, and the Euro.

SG&A and RD&E net combined was $13 million higher, due to higher cost for IT and application engineering, as well as timing of engineering income. The profit increase was driven by improved pricing, high volumes, as well as our strategic initiatives, partly offset by the significant headwinds from raw materials, foreign exchange, call-off volatility, and general cost inflation. As a result, the leverage on the higher sales excluding currency effects was within the range of the normal interval of 20% to 30%, despite the substantial headwinds from raw materials.

Looking now on the cash flow performance on to the next slide. For the third quarter of 2022, operating cash flow increased by $43 million to $232 million, compared to last year, mainly due to strong performance in working capital and the higher net income. During the quarter, trade working capital improved by $65 million, despite the steep ramp-up in sales. The improved trade working capital was a result of improved payables in part due to our capital efficiency program.

In the quarter, the volatile light-vehicle production and logistics challenges continued and it drove inefficiencies in inventories. Inefficiency in inventory continued to be in excess of $100 million at the end of the quarter. Our ambition is to eliminate these inefficiencies as soon as possible, which does require further stabilization of the supply chain and call-off patterns from our customers.

For the third quarter, capital expenditures net increased by 47% to $164 million. In relation to sales, it was 7.1% versus 6.0% a year earlier. The higher level to some extent reflects a temporary catch-up of investments that were delayed during the pandemic. It is also related to the ongoing footprint activities and capacity expansion for growth, especially in China.

For the third quarter of 2022, free cash flow was $68 million, $9 million lower than a year earlier, driven by the higher capital expenditures. The cash conversion over the last 12-months was around 25%. In the quarter, we paid $56 million in dividends and again repurchased shares for $20 million. In the fourth quarter of 2022, the timing of payment of customer compensations and seasonality of engineering income are expected to support a positive cash flow development.

Now looking on our shareholder returns on the next slide. Autoliv has shown in the past several years its ability to generate a solid cash flow in a difficult market environment, with COVID lockdowns, the war in Ukraine, industry supply-chain challenges, and substantial decline in light-vehicle production. We have historically used both dividend payments and share repurchases to create shareholder value. Historically, the dividend as usually represented a yield of approximately 2% to 3% in relation to the average share price.

Since beginning of 2019, we have reduced the net debt significantly, as well as returned $700 million directly to shareholders. This includes stock buybacks of around $60 million as part of the stock repurchase program that we announced at our Capital Markets Day in 2021. We expect that our balance sheet and positive cash flow trend will allow for increasing shareholder returns.

Now looking on to the next slide, the leverage ratio at the end of September 2022 was 1.6 times, this was a reduction from the 1.7 times in the previous quarter as our 12-months trailing adjusted EBITDA increased by $58 million and our net debt decreased by $36 million.

Looking at the liquidity position we go to the next slide. At the end of the quarter, we had a significant liquidity cushion of approximately $1.6 billion in cash and unutilized committed credit facilities. Our unutilized $1.1 billion revolving credit facility is with 11 major banks. This was refinanced in May of this year and matures in 2027 with an extension option to 2029. To minimize refinancing risks, we have diversified our long-term funding sources and we also have a maturity profile that is well spread over the coming years. None of the credit facilities are subject to financial covenants.

Now looking at our energy usage on to the next slide, we are continuously monitoring the development of the energy markets and we have taken actions to secure supply and to lock-in prices. The energy issue is mainly a European challenge. The cost for the energy used in our facilities in 2021 for the company overall corresponded to approximately 1% of sales. Of our total energy use 66% was purchased electricity and 27% came from natural gas. Autoliv does not generally use gas for its manufacturing processes, it is mainly used for heating at some of our facilities.

Our main concern at this stage is the potential impact that a shortage of gas or electricity might have on the industry supply chain, especially in Europe. Currently, we do see a slight easing of prices in Europe, due to the steady inflow of gas, mainly LNG, and recent decisions to activate nuclear power plants again.

From the remaining of 2022, energy prices are locked-in, contract negotiations for 2023 are completed in all regions except for Europe. In Europe, we have locked-in most of the prices for the first half of 2023, several of them are new Green Energy contracts. We are still negotiating in a few countries for the second half of the year.

I now hand it back to, Mikael.

Mikael Bratt

Thank you, Fredrik. Looking now at the LVP development on the next slide. Part of the auto industry continues to operate at or near recessionary levels, impacted by supply chain challenges. For example, due to lack of new vehicles, European registrations year-to-date is approximately 30% lower than for the same period in 2009, during the financial crisis. For the fourth quarter of 2022, global light-vehicle production is expected to grow by 3%, compared to the same period in 2021 according to S&P Global.

Sequentially, LVP is expected to improve by 4%, compared to quarter three as the availability of automotive semiconductors is expected to improve, although not as much as previously anticipated. In North America and Europe, the near-term production forecast continues to be limited by automakers’ ability to produce not by demand.

In China, light-vehicle production is supported by robust EV sales and the effects from tax incentives on certain new vehicles. According to S&P Global, full-year global 2022 light-vehicle production is forecasted at 79 million units, representing year-over-year growth of 6.8%.

Now looking on the Q4 business outlook on the next slide. As illustrated by this chart, we have been able to gradually improve the adjusted operating margin from 3.2% in the first quarter to 7.5% in the third quarter of 2022. This is despite continued headwinds from raw materials and other inflationary costs. The chart also shows the substantial year-over-year improvements in Q4 that is implied by our full-year indication. The main reasons for the sequential improvement are the price increases and higher volumes, as well as our strong focus on continuous improvements throughout the organization and our strategic roadmap initiatives.

As implied by our full-year indication, we expect the sequential margin improvement trend to continue in Q4. In addition to higher prices, continued volume recovery, and cost-reduction initiatives, we expect positive seasonal effects from engineering income. Although uncertainties continue to affect the industry volumes, we expect to significantly outperform light-vehicle production in Q4.

To put things in context, this year has been dramatic, especially in Europe. The year started with light-vehicle production expected to grow by 17% in Europe, while now nine-months later, it is expected to decline by 2%. Additionally, we see -- we were globally affected by volatile light-vehicle production with late changes to call-offs, the war in Ukraine, and the challenging supply chain, which created disruptions and substantial cost increases. While we continue to challenge ourselves to further improve, I am pleased that our performance in such a dramatic environment enable us to guide towards the upper-end of the adjusted operating margin range.

Looking at the updated full-year 2022 indications on the next slide. Our full-year 2022 indications exclude costs and gains from capacity alignments, anti-trust related matters, and other discrete items. We are adjusting our full-year indication for adjusting operating margin to the upper-end of the indication range of 6% to 7%, reflecting our Q3 performance and the shorter time span remaining of the year.

The updated indications assume that full-year 2022 global light-vehicle production will grow around 6% and that we achieve our targeted cost compensations plus some level of market stabilization. We expect sales to increase organically by around 15%, currency translation effects on sales are assumed to be around a negative 6%, operating cash flow is expected to be around $700 million to $750 million.

Turning to the next slide. This concludes our formal comments for today's earnings call, and we would like to open the line for questions. I will now turn it back to, Mark.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Mattias Holmberg of DNB. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Mattias Holmberg

Hi, everyone. Thank you. Two questions from me. I really appreciate the details you gave on the new pricing agreements and this might be a dumb question, but to make it very clear, let's say, we have a scenario where steep prices fall or rise by X percent, can you sort of walk us through the difference of how you're selling prices would change in the contracts, where do have this raw-material costs versus the ones where you do not?

And my second question is on net working capital, in relation to the inefficiencies and inventories of excess of $100 million, how does this relate to the $800 million, I think you mentioned in the capital efficiency program that you talked about at the Capital Markets Day last year and how far you've progressed here? Thank you.

Mikael Bratt

Thank you for your question, sir. Let me start with the pricing question there. What we're stating here is that we have come through 90% of the contracts to be negotiated around the raw material. And in those, we have increased -- in those negotiations, we have increased what we then call compensation clauses for the future year and connecting that to the developments of raw-material, so we have a better balance. It's difficult and I can't give you a very detailed breakdown on that because, each agreement, you can say has its unique details and what we are focusing here of course is to make sure that we have a balance between our supplier base and our customer base and respective raw materials here.

But we have a better position today than what we had in the beginning of the year in relation to that, but I can't afford to give you more details than that. And when it comes to the net working capital, I ask Fredrik to take that.

Fredrik Westin

Yes. So on the $800 million we did connect that also with the mid-term targets so the timeline is 2024. I think on the -- you can also see that from the payable side, we are progressing very well. So I would even say we are ahead of a target there if you look at timing-wise. On the inventory side, we have the right initiatives in place, but unfortunately, the effects are not where we want them to be because of the -- both the volatility on the supplier side, but also the call-off patterns on our customer side, meaning that we cannot get the inventory out that our setups would enable us to do because we have to operate at higher safety stock levels.

But, I should -- the volatility come down, then we would expect that this allows us to operate at a better efficiency level than what we have right now. So I would say, from an initiative point of view, it's on track, but unfortunately from the results point of view it is somewhat delayed because of the current market environment.

Mattias Holmberg

Great. Thank you, both.

Mikael Bratt

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Colin Langan at Wells Fargo. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Colin Langan

Oh, great, thanks for taking my questions. I just, as we're looking at Q4 and I think your guidance implies something close to 10% if sort of go to the mid-point in Q4. Is there anything, I think you highlighted some seasonality? Is there any retroactive pricing help there? And anything that would prevent us from taking that in any material way and not annualizing that as for our margin for 2023?

Mikael Bratt

I mean, you saw already now in the third quarter that the retroactive part on the pricing negotiations was already smaller than in the second quarter, and I would expect that this -- that the fourth quarter would be even smaller than the third quarter. So it's not a matter of, say high retroactivity or something that then increases the margin sequentially, it is the slightly higher volumes that we expect for the fourth quarter versus the third and that's particularly in Europe and Japan, it is a further improvement of the price position and then the seasonality on the higher engineering income, which is a typical pattern for our company, that are the main drivers for the fourth quarter.

Colin Langan

And so as we're thinking about, let's say production is flat in 2023, I mean, what are the other sort of key pieces we should be thinking about of how your margins should trend, because obviously it's been on a pretty great trajectory so far sequentially, you have continued pricing helps, so there should be more help next year, it looks like in the walk the inflationary headwinds aren't what they were at the beginning of the year, so they actually become tailwinds next year in a restructuring production volatility, this seems like a lot of tailwinds, in any way to maybe frame some of those issues if the next year is sort of flat, but steady production?

Mikael Bratt

I think when it comes to 2023, we will come back with more commentary around the progression there as we get to the Q4 presentation there, as we usually do, so it's too early to comment that. But I think what we're showing here in the quarter is really that we are really focusing on, first of all, the price discussions, but our job internally here is really to continue to work with our cost base and drive the efficiencies here and we have talked on the bases here, which is that we will have strategic roadmaps to drive efficiency across the whole value chain and additional cost -- cost restructuring -- cost focus that we announced earlier in the spring here.

But of course, I mean there is still a lot of uncertainty out there as we have alluded to here also in the Q3 presentation here, that we don't have it behind us yet then and we have talked about the volatility, labor challenges, and component challenges, et cetera. So I think we will have to come back and give you more details there when the time comes here in the beginning of next year.

Colin Langan

Okay. All right, thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris McNally at Evercore. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Chris McNally

Thanks so much and I appreciate the team. Maybe if we can focus on FX headwinds, particularly it looks like, you have in the short-term a transactional headwind from the Japanese yen in terms of exporting inflators from the U.S. Typically, FX has kind of washed out for you, but obviously, it extreme moves in the currencies, could you just give us an idea, is this something that you can kind of work around from global supply or should we sort of think this is a -- it's going to be a headwind as long as sort of the FX is going against you in the short-term?

Fredrik Westin

Yes. I mean as we see, we have a total currency headwind of $42 million in the quarter, roundabout $25 million of that is from transactional FX. And as you said that the main reasons are the Japanese yen, which has weakened around about 30% year-over-year against the dollar, but also as I mentioned the won -- the Korean won and the Euro. We do have, especially in Asia, we do have FX clauses with a number of customers, so that should compensate for some of these developments, but should the FX rates stay as where they are or at where they are right now, we would also expect a negative impact in the fourth quarter, and then we would look into more longer-term solutions should the rates maintain at this level.

Chris McNally

So that touched, so there is FX clauses for some of the Asian contracts, but like anything there's probably a delay and there's probably some gaps, so again issue in Q4 is a headwind, but there may be some recoveries that can if I think about 2023?

Fredrik Westin

Yes, correct.

Chris McNally

Perfect. And then just, always to revisit your 12% medium-term margin target, still looks like it holds from -- once production normalizes whatever that is $89 million plus. I think the raw materials, you've done a great job of price versus raw, so that seems like it's also another check-the-box, maybe this FX is a little bit of a headwind, but I just wanted to always confirm that the 12% looks on-track once we get our production normalizing again?

Fredrik Westin

Yes. As I think we stating here in the Q3 report this quarter is important stepping stone towards our mid-term targets here and the framework around 12% that we have announced at least $85 million vehicle production level and that we have a net effect of raw material prices at 2021 years level, it's still valid, yes, absolutely.

Chris McNally

Okay. Great, thank you so much.

Fredrik Westin

Thank you.

Mikael Bratt

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Spak at RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Joseph Spak

Thanks, everyone. So I totally appreciate that you sort of want to punt on ‘23 until we get to next quarter, because there's still some moving pieces, but as I sort of mentioned earlier, right? The implied sort of fourth quarter margins are close to 10%. Fourth quarter, I know typically has that like 100 basis point, 150 basis point from the RD&E income. So if we factor that in and all the other actions you've taken. Is something around 9% the right base we should think about? And then we need to sort of consider all those other uncertainties on pricing, volume, commodities, FX, et-cetera, is that how we should start thinking about it?

Mikael Bratt

I'm sorry, I think my answer has to be the same here as before here, we can't really give you any comments around ‘23 until we get there. But of course, as you said yourself here, it's a lot of moving pieces here in the external environment that also makes it difficult here and now to draw conclusions. But what I can say is that, I mean, I feel comfortable with what we can control that our team is doing that well and that we are moving forward in the right direction here and as I said Q3 is an important stepping stone on that directional movement there, and we will come back with more detail later.

Joseph Spak

Maybe to simplify the question and like is, is that right that the fourth quarter has about 100 basis points, 150 basis points RD&E benefit?

Fredrik Westin

Yes, it sounds about right, yes.

Joseph Spak

Okay. The second question then, so you mentioned the 5 percentage point hit from raw materials in ‘22, can you like pro forma for all the -- the way all the new contracts are written, what do you think that would have been in ‘22?

Mikael Bratt

I don't understand the question.

Joseph Spak

So you're expecting a 5 percentage point hit from raw materials in ’22, right? But you're through the year, you've -- you've formed new contracts that can compensate you for raw materials, so if those had been in place starting on January 1, what do you think that margin hit would have been for the year?

Fredrik Westin

Let me try to answer it this way. I mean we have, as we said here achieved more than 90 or settled more than 90% of the negotiations related to raw materials and we have done that at a level that is satisfactory for us to offset the raw material headwinds that we have experienced. So with that, we are where we think we should be when it comes to the raw material compensation, yes, at the moment.

Joseph Spak

Okay. So it would have been arguably somewhat negligible, obviously, there's other inflationary pressure, but strictly on the raw materials it would have been pretty minor headwind.

Fredrik Westin

Had we had this from the beginning? Yes.

Joseph Spak

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Agnieszka Vilela at Nordea. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Agnieszka Vilela

Perfect, thank you. I have two questions, and I will ask them one by one. So, Mikael and Fredrik, you said that the main reason for the margin improvement in Q3 where the price increases and higher volumes, yet when I look at the margin development in the quarter sequentially or year-on-year. I come to the conclusion that much of this improvement was driven by OpEx costs such as R&D and SG&A's and not that much by the improvement in gross margin?

And I would expect that pricing and volumes would translate more into the strength in the gross margins, so I just appreciate your comment on that, and what we should expect going forward?

Fredrik Westin

Yes, sure. So first of all, I mean, what we're seeing is that we have now the -- see the balance in place related to raw materials. When it comes to the other inflationary pressures on labor, logistics, freight -- sorry, and utilities that -- we have not come as far in those negotiations, so that is one of the reasons why you don't see the full effect on the price negotiations on the gross margin line, because there is still some outstanding work to be done on the other three components.

Then on the FX part that hits to a much larger extent on the gross profit line than it does on the cost below, it's actually positive on the cost below gross profit. So it's a significantly larger FX hit when you look at the gross margin. So I think you need to consider that to understand maybe the operational performance better.

And then maybe lastly, there is still a lot of inefficiency in our setup, due to the call-off volatility. It is -- the volatility is improving, but it's still far from levels that we had pre-COVID and what -- for instance, premium freight is still also a cost burden to us, it's not as bad as it was in the first quarter or even in the second, but it's still a headwind for us that's also impacting the gross margin.

Agnieszka Vilela

Okay, perfect, to your point. And then my last question is about your referring to the 90% of the negotiated contracts being now concluded, the contracts that you negotiate are they all contracts that you have? Or is it just the proportion of the outstanding contracts?

Fredrik Westin

Hi, can you -- I don't understand --

Agnieszka Vilela

You can say like that might be, so you have say total contracts with your customers, are you addressing all the contracts that you have with the price negotiations or just choosing some of the contracts to address?

Fredrik Westin

No, no, it is by customer, so we typically have an agreement by customer, it might be sometimes by customer and region, but the 90% indicates that it covers all customers -- all contracts that we have.

Agnieszka Vilela

All contracts, okay, perfect. And then maybe a short follow-up on that so, when we look at Q3, how much of your sales was based on the negotiated prices, was it already 90% or was it a smaller proportion?

Mikael Bratt

Yes. It was less because they were contracts that were adjusted during the quarter and not all of that those had retroactivity in them.

Agnieszka Vilela

Perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philipp Konig of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Philipp Konig

Yes. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question. My first question is just coming back to the raw materials, you're guiding for around 5% for this year, if I look at it year-to-date we are running at around 5% and it was around 4% in the third quarter. When -- is it fair to say that this is maybe a bit of a conservative assumption that probably given that Q4 should also see a bit of an improvement sequentially, and when do you see your potential rollover, I think in the first quarter of this year you had a majority of your steel contracts that you renegotiated, would these be renegotiated again in the first quarter of next year? That's my first question.

Fredrik Westin

Yes, we're seeing up to 5 percentage points and the reason for that is that yes we do see that, for instance, steel or other non-ferrous metals are coming down and they should also have a positive effect already in the fourth quarter, however, that is offset by John and Westin, which has a different cost development for us.

And as we've said many times before, we have the six to nine months' time lag between spot price development and our -- when the costs come into our P&L, and that still holds true. So we need to see the cost -- the indices developer going forward and then what that implies for next year. But I think it's also important to remember that even though we've seen the raw material costs come down or prices come down, there are still at significantly higher levels than they were pre-COVID.

Philipp Konig

Thank you. And my second question is just connected to the pricing on that. You moved up to 50% from 20% on the raw materials. Does that then also include the six to nine months time lag in line with how it hits your P&L? Or is it really pretty different across contracts?

Fredrik Westin

There is a range on the contracts as well. And what we're striving for is to have a good balance between -- or the right setup between -- of how the top line is impacted versus how our cost base is impacted. But there's -- there are -- as Mikael said before, it's rather complex structures when you look at how the different contracts are set up by customer and then also the adjustment cycles of that. But our ambition is that we have a better balance between both cost and the top line development.

Philipp Konig

Thank you.

Fredrik Westin

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Emmanuel Rosner at Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Emmanuel Rosner

Yes, thank you very much. So it's good to see that you're having productive negotiations around price recoveries for energy, freight, labor. When would you expect the timing of these negotiations to conclude? And would the benefit be seen this year? Or is this something that would be incremental for 2023?

Mikael Bratt

I think, it's gradually coming on here as we move forward with negotiations. And of course, I mean, it's as long as we live in an inflationary environment here and we see continued cost pressure, it's of course, an ongoing dialogue and discussion with our customer and how to pass this on. So I wouldn't say that we will be finished at a certain point. It all is connected to how the cost development will be when it comes to these external factors, but gradually seeing the effects from that.

Emmanuel Rosner

Understood. And then, I guess, separately, so you mentioned, I guess, in the implied fourth quarter margin outlook, you mentioned some typical seasonality and sort of timing benefit in there. Would you be more comfortable thinking about your second half 2022 margin as a good run rate to start thinking about building expectations for next year? Is that a cleaner number in terms of where you think your business is operating on an underlying basis?

Mikael Bratt

Yes. I think, first of all, I mean, the good thing here is that we are moving in the right direction here and building momentum as we manage through this difficult external landscape. And I think when we talk about run rates here, I think what we're showing here is that we have a good improvement on the underlying run rate here. But we still have a lot of external factors in heading in the wrong direction. I mean, it's still a headwind for us and will probably continue to be so and we have mentioned them earlier here around overall inflationary pressure. We have the currency situation volatility, we still see far from normalized there and we have the component and labor shortage in general for the industry here.

So I think with too many moving pieces on the outside, I think it's difficult to be too firm here. But despite all this, I think we are showing here that our own activities is really giving results here. And I'm happy to see that, and I'm feeling that we are well set up to continue to deal with the external environment here.

Emmanuel Rosner

Okay, great, thank you.

Mikael Bratt

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Rod Lache at Wolfe Research. Please go ahead, your line is open. Rod?

Rod Lache

Hello, can you hear me?

Mikael Bratt

Yes, we hear you.

Rod Lache

Hello, okay. I wanted to ask about the new contract. So if you do see direct material declines from here or commodity declines from here. Can you maybe just give us a little bit of color on how much of that gets retained? So I believe that 40% of your material exposure is steel, which is obviously down a lot, but now you have index agreements on some of your contracts?

And then secondly, just regarding the non-raw material negotiations. So labor, logistics and utilities. Could you give us a sense of what the value at stake is or what you are targeting in terms of recovery in that category?

Fredrik Westin

Yes. If I start with the raw material part, as we said here a couple of times, I mean, there are different setups now with different customers, and they follow both different indices and different, say, renewal cycles. So our target is really that we have a balance between our cost side and our customer side that does not have a significant impact on our margin going forward, but that we have a good balance here between price and cost.

Also not to forget, I mean, we are indicating here that we are now -- we have closes on materials here on about half the portfolio, not on more than that. So the other half is then still being negotiated and does not follow any type of indexation or close setup.

Then on the non-raw material, I mean it is a significantly smaller part that has -- or how it has burdened our cost structure so far. I mean on utilities, as we said here, it's around 1% of our cost base. And then we've seen where we expect for this year to have maybe a 10 basis point increase on utilities, whereas freight and labor are significantly or stronger headwinds that we're facing. So the focus is really now for us to also have fact-based discussions here with our customers and to be -- and to be able to get the offset also for these cost types.

Rod Lache

Okay, great. And just lastly, can you maybe just give us an update on where you stand on the digitization and automation initiatives and what you're looking at in terms of implementing that over the near-term?

Mikael Bratt

No, I think we have hold on to our -- what we call the strategic road maps where digitalization and optimization is a part of. And I think that's very important to do that even though we have a lot of challenges short-term here in the market. And we are progressing according to plan there. And that, of course, is also what's helping us gradually each quarter. We will continue with that.

Rod Lache

Okay. Thank you.

Mikael Bratt

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Hampus Engellau at Handelsbanken. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hampus Engellau

Thank you very much. I just wanted to hear you guys on the deal activity in Europe, I had some conversations with other sub-suppliers to the auto industry saying that we've been cancellations from OEMs and part of that could be that they are now seeing better component availability, which means that they're slightly normalizing their inventory levels. What's your view on that and your experience similar in your daily business? That's my only question. Thanks.

Mikael Bratt

I think as we said before here, I mean, we have seen improvements when it comes to the volatility. But I would say it's still an issue and far from normalized, so that's ongoing. And of course, the volumes also have stabilized and improved on an absolute level here, compared to the previous quarters. So we're moving in the right direction, but it's still from normalized year. And it's clearly so that, I mean, yes, the semiconductor availability has improved, but we still see differences between the different customers here -- some is, you could say, almost gone. It's not a topic whilst others still are facing some challenges there. So I guess it depends on the OEM here still.

Hampus Engellau

Fair enough. Thanks.

Mikael Bratt

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vijay Rakesh of Mizuho. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Vijay Rakesh

Yes. Hi, guys. Just to beat a dead horse again on the pricing side, just wondering, as you look at your price adjustments, some are tied to indices and on a rolling basis, I guess. But are you using like 2019, ‘20 as a base for some of these price increases? Or -- are they more tied to where pricing is now, which means as pricing starts to come down, it could be -- it could impact your future pricing. Can you talk to how -- what's the starting point versus base pricing you're using?

Fredrik Westin

Yes. I mean, it's a good point. I mean, of course, if you don't -- if you're not on a setup like that and then you have to jump on to the index, you need to make sure that you get the right price compensation. That's what we've been extremely focused on. So for us, it's been really about getting the right height on these adjustments to compensate for the -- basically, the cost evolution that we had to absorb for a period of time here. And that's been our prime focus. And as we've closed out on -- or 90% plus, off of these agreements, I think we can also then with that say that we have gotten the right height as we would have expected, otherwise, we would not have closed them out.

Vijay Rakesh

Got it. And so then as you look at ‘23 given that pricing might come down, but still they could be fairly elevated. You would expect still that to be a fairly good tailwind into ‘23 as well, right?

Fredrik Westin

It's -- I think it's too early to tell. But I mean, the way that the industries look right now, it would indicate that the cost would come down and then that would also then lead to, say, an adjustment on the pricing side or vice versa. And then really here, our ambition is that is -- that we have a better balance between the cost and the pricing development and also that this is reflected in a reasonable amount of time, and that reduces our risk profile as a company. So that has been our main ambition here.

Vijay Rakesh

Got it. Last question. On the inventory side, when you look at your OEM customers and the channel, can you talk to how inventory levels are improving or if they are not either sequentially or year-on-year? If you can give us some color, I’d say. Thanks a lot.

Fredrik Westin

Actually, the main problem for us at the moment is more on the raw material side, so more on the incoming inventory levels, and that's where we have the larger problems but due to still rather distressed supply chains and then also longer lead times. So that has been the larger issue for us. Then, of course, also the -- the call of volatility causes inefficiencies on the finished goods side, but that is not a large problem year-over-year. I mean, that was actually even worse last year than this year.

Vijay Rakesh

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes --

Anders Trapp

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Mikael Bratt

I think we're out of time here, sorry. I think we should close the call maybe.

Operator

Of course. I'll hand back to you for the closing comments.

Mikael Bratt

Okay. Thank you, Mark. Before we end today's call, I would like to say that we are continuing to build resilience and strength in terminal times, relying on our strong company culture. Our actions are creating both short-term and long-term improvements, and we believe these actions would enable us to build an even stronger position, despite the challenging macro environment. We remain agile and prepared for more adverse market development should that be necessary.

Autoliv continues to focus on our vision of saving more lives, which is our most important direct contribution to a sustainable society. Our fourth quarter earnings call is scheduled for Friday, January 27, 2023. Thank you, everyone, for participating in today's call. We sincerely appreciate your continued interest in Autoliv. Until next time, stay safe.

奥托立夫(ALV.US)2022年第三季度业绩电话会
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2022-10-21 23:03
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